mr. biggs of arizona. amendment number 151. number 152. amendment number 153. amendment number 155. amendment 156 by mr. connolly of virginia. amendment 160 of mr. gaetz of florida. amendment 161 by mr. gaetz of florida. amendment 166 of ms. jayapal from washington. amendment number 175 of mr. roy of texas. the chair will reduce to two minutes the minimum time for every electronic vote in this series. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 34 printed in part a of house report 118-216 by the gentlewoman from pennsylvania, ms. houlahan, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redisnate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 34 printed in part a of house report 118-216 offered by ms. houlahan of pennsylvania. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is orde

mr. biggs: thank you, mr. chairman, i rise in support of my amendment which restores funding to the agriculture statistical service to the fiscal year 2019 level. that would result in directly nearly $13 million in deficit reduction in fiscal year 2024. annual discretionary spending, i won't go through that again, what i said last time. revenue in fiscal 2022 levels exceeded our federal spending in fiscal year 2019 and means if we were to shrink it back to the bee theme ott levels wee could add to our national debt. i want to repeat where it's so doggone important we take care of this. the proposed funding level for the agricultural statistical service is a 7.5% increase over fiscal 2019 levels. we're actually bumping it above slightly the 2019 levels and getting it back to the precovid levels. my colleagues across the aisle, i heard one of them say in talking about the underlying bill, the main bill that the federal government needed to, quote, meet the needs of every american, close quote. we should think ab

mr. biggs: i'm surprised you didn't call me your good friend because you've been calling people your good friend. mr. cole: i'm happy to call you my good friend. mr. biggs: thank you, mr. chairman. i'm delighted to be here and appreciate you being here and appreciate the sacrificed time do you and wonder if you'd have it for any other way, except mr. but it's great to be with you. and i have a number of amendments i'm going to try to address. i'll address some of them more quickly and more briefly but introduce them to you so you see what it is. hopefully you'll see fit to make these in order. with regard to h.r.4368, the agriculture bill. so i have a -- amendment 4 here. what it does is prevents funds being used to take enforcement actions against homeyo pathic drugs that need special guidance in the food and drug act. they're already regulated but this administration has gone after them a little bit trying to curtail them. and we've actually had some bipartisan support on this. i hope the bip

mr. biggs roesen dale and i think the easiest thing is to start at one end and move to the other if that's all right. we'll start with my friend from louisiana, mr. higgins, you're recognized for whatever amendment you'd like to address. we'll go through your testimony and open it up for questions after that. mr. higgins: thank you. i'd like to address two pending amendments before the committee. they are germane to each other as they are to the underlying bill. i've been a strong voice against government mandates, and we're going into the oppression of individual rights and freedoms during the covid era, mask mandates and what came to be called vaccination passport requirements. i have two amendments before the committee. each defunds the ability of any enacted funding within this bill to enforce or create or -- create or enforce mask mandates within the legitimate parameters of the underlying bill. the era that we lived through covid was quite oppressive, shockingly so, including the oppressi

mr. biggs: i recognize mr. gaetz. mr. gaetz: the foreign intelligence act, i'm not a foreigner, why should that bother me, what would you say? ms. goitein: it would be an awkward number for the government to disclose. and those communications are available to f.b.i. agents without a warrant for a court order of any kind. gate gate you talked about these back-door searches and that is an intense focus of the committee. could you define that for. ms. goitein: when a back-door search is electronic query of data obtained under section 702. and then shared with the f.b.i., the national counterterrorism center and the c.i.a. and agents can run electronic queries of those data systems using i had fires with americans. using an american email address and plug that in and return any communications that were obtained under section 702 that have an american on one end of them. mr. gaetz: there is a digital file out there about millions of americans and tried to get straight answers from folks who work in the government about this qu

amendment number 39 by mr. biggs of arizona. amendment number 40 by mr. biggs of arizona. amendment number 41 by mr. biggs of arizona. amendment number 42 and 43 by mr. biggs of arizona. amendment number 48 by mrs. boebert of colorado. amendment number 49 by mrs. boebert of colorado. amendment number 50. amendment number 51 and amendment number 64 by mr. nehls of texas. the chair will reduce to two minutes the minimum time for identify anyelectronic vote after the first vote -- any electronic vote after the first vote in the series. the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment number 13 printed in part b of the house report 118-216 by the gentleman from california, mr. correa on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 13 printed in part b of house report number 118-216, offered by mr. correa of california. the chair: recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for recorded vote will rise and be counted. a suffi

caller: how are you doing, mr. biggs? big fan. i grew up in new york city, republican -- which is not easy -- but i was watching the hearings the other day. i am upset with the republicans. they were talking to him like he was an old grandfather. you are the only guy, you and the guy from wisconsin, you are tough on him. nobody was asking him questions. i feel like it is 1938 germany and this guy is looking for conservatives. he is going after the guy i like, president trump, and nobody stood up to the guy. this guy is in the freedom caucus, right? guest: he is. caller: why isn't he removed but you have the girl from georgia, marjorie taylor greene, who has more guts than half the guys up there, they kicked her out. i think i am done. i like you but president trump is not getting support from the guise of their. host: let's get a response. guest: i appreciate your response. i don't know what mr. bucks theory of the case is but my theory is he has taken the department of justice and put more fuel on the fire for weaponization and p

the clerk: amendment number 61 offered by mr. biggs of arizona. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote the yeas are 105, nays 325. the amendment is not adopted. y'all can go home. the chair: the house will be in order, please. the chair understands that amendment number 70 will not be offered. it's now in order to consider amendment 71 printed in part f of house report 118-216. for what purpose does the gentleman from yank seek recognition? >> mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment 71 printed in part f of 116-216 offered by ms. hageman

. >> yeah, i agree with mr. biggs. you have given us testimony today that you are disappointed that the fbi didn't cooperate more, right? that was your testimony? >> i said that. >> yeah, so we are disappointed to. but the difference is when regular folks do things that are wrong and unlawful there is typically greater effort to try to get those people before a grand jury, to utilize criminal process where appropriate. not for other purposes. and it is just, like oh, well, they precept, the guy who might have said this whole op-ed motion, he just didn't want to talk to you about certain things. and you are real accommodating to that. and then mr. the person who chooses papadopoulos to create this predicate that you find in proper. i mean, did you ever know his lawyer was and if -- >> you talk to his lawyer in europe, i don't know -- >> you can find the guy's lawyer but you couldn't find him? >> we contacted somebody that we knew had represented him and part of the effort to try to look at him. and you got a lawyer? and

mr. biggs of arizona. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 723, mr. biggs and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from arizona. mr. biggs: i rise to speak in support of my amendment which cuts $300 million in funding for the ukraine security assistance initiative. encourage my colleagues to support that. the f.y.24 defense appropriations bill authorizes a total of $826 about.45 -- $826.45 billion. 3.6% more than the f.y.23 enacted level. currently in the united states -- the u.s. has committed over $113 billion in military economic, and humanitarian assistance to protect ukraine's border. we can't fund our own border to protect our citizens from the fentanyl pouring across our southern border killing over 290 americans daily. and trafficking the mexican cartels are engaging in. so, you good still? ok. i'll proceed. i find myself asking this question, how is it that we are willing to send over $100 billion to ukraine and in this bill an addition

burleson, was that mr. biggs, do you have a point of order? (inaudible) >> chair new recognizes mr.leson from missouri. >> thank you, professor turley, could you tell me would it be illegal or certainly unethical for elected officials to utilize the resources in their office, utilize their staff to financially benefit their family member's business or their own? >> part of the problem with the reason i think the illusion of defense is illusory, is that if the president was involved in that influence peddling scheme it would still involve using his office as a commodity for corruption and if you didn't follow forward and i think that itself would become an issue of public corruption we'd have to-- >> thank you. >> in fact on multiple occasions he claimed he was not involved in his family business dealings, however, the work of this committee, the reports that we've had from the treasury department, suspicious activity reports, irs testimony all tell a different story all from different sources and even his own staff didn't get the memo that they weren't supposed to communicate with h

caller: how are you doing, mr. biggs? big fan.rk city, republican -- which is not easy -- but i was watching the hearings the other day. i am upset with the republicans. they were talking to him like he was an old grandfather. you are the only guy, you and the guy from wisconsin, you are tough on him. nobody was asking him questions. i feel like it is 1938 germany and this guy is looking for conservatives. he is going after the guy i like, president trump, and nobody stood up to the guy. this guy is in the freedom caucus, right? guest: he is. caller: why isn't he removed but you have the girl from georgia, marjorie taylor greene, who has more guts than half the guys up there, they kicked her out. i think i am done. i like you but president trump is not getting support from the guise of their. host: let's get a response. guest: i appreciate your response. i don't know what mr. bucks theory of the case is but my theory is he has taken the department of justice and put more fuel on the fire for weaponization and politicize asian of g

mr. biggs when you say biden family you are not talking about jill or anybody else, you are talking about joe biden; is that fair to say? >> yes. i don't think about it as you know joe directly but it's fair -- that's fair to say that he was selling the brand. is it going to take a long time for them to get to the meat of this to move on to another stop or do you think that this could happen quickly? >> no. i don't think it's going to happen quickly because the house republicans don't have an enforcement mechanism. i mean, say they send a subpoena and the person sends it back to them is a paper airplane, you have got to go to the u.s. attorney's office for the district of columbia to hold someone in criminal contempt of congress. i mean, you can go before an article iii judge and kind of make your case for your documents, but that takes forever, so they need bank records. and here's the other thing i think that they need -- you can't engage in willful blindness. whether or not they can tie, con

mr. biggs: i look forward to that kohl queesm mr. neguse: i'm going to yield back. i appreciate the >> a healthy des like this, where americans can see democracy in work, when citizens are truly informed. get informed straight from the source science c-span. unfiltered, unbiased, word for word. the opinion that matters the most is your own. this is what democracy looks like. c-span, powered by cable. >> up next, 2024 republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. talks about economic policy an china at a manufacturing plant in new albany, ohio, his ho state. vivek: congratulationsg a crown jewel and embodiment of what is possible in the united states of america. supplying the greatest companies in the world at a faster pace than what even they will get from china. that's what today's actually about. this campaign, for those who have been following this, and you know this, this is about filling the void at the heart of our country. we're in the middle of a national identity crisis today. we have forgotten what it means to be an american. i am 38 years old. i'm th

donaldson, the chairman, now want to disavow stir archer's testimony that mr. biggs entirely relies upon. they don't want him to come sit here. why? may be because he testified that joe biden never discussed business with hunter or other business associates. he got nothing from their businesses. and he never took any official acts related to the businesses. or maybe the american people might hear that this $3.5 million actually had nothing to do with hunter biden which is what devon archer testified. orvo what about hunter biden's partner and accountant. he also performed a number of administrative and bookkeeping tasks for then vice president biden and hunter biden. he saw vice president biden's bank accounts. and he told the committee that he was not aware of any involvement by president biden and the financial conduct of his relatives businesses, much less any transactions into or out of them vice president's bank account related to business conducted by any family member. the end of the list goes on. we've already talked about rudy giuliani. the reason is you bri

. >> mr. biggs from arizona for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. going to put up on the board in just a second, but this is the -- this is the entire transcript of the devon archer testimony. i submit it to the record. >> without objection, so ordered. >> thank you very much. so in this particular colloquy going on highlighted up there, you'll see that mr. archer says -- let's start at the beginning, go somewhere else. he says the question is, did he talk about -- did hunter talk about how bringing his dad, joe biden, either to ukraine or using his dad as vice president would add value in the eyes of burisma officials, answer, yes. how did it come up, well, we were business partners, we were business partners, ok. what kind of leverage was hunter trying to get by using his dad. answer by devon, i think it's more defensive. defensive leverage that the value is there in his work. also in this same document, i asked him, i said the brand, what is it, you keep talking about the biden brand. is it dr. jill? brother jim? no, he says, looks at me like i'm

mr. biggs. mr. biggs votes aye. ms. mace. >> this is a motion to table the motion to subpoena rudy giuliani. >> it doesn't seem to have a lot to do with this. >> ms. mace votes aye. >> mr. le turner votes aye. mr. fallon. mr. donald's. mr. armstrong. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. perry. mr. timmons. mr. burchard. ms. green. ms. mclean. ms. mclean votes i. mr. fry. mr. fry votes aye. mr. edwards. mr. edwards votes aye. mr. langworthy. esther burlison? mr. burlison votes aye. mr. raskin. >> no. >> mr. raskin votes no. >> ms. norton votes no. mr. lynch votes no. mr. connolly. mr.,? mr. mfume. >> he votes no. ms. o'connor feel cortez. she votes nate. ms. porter votes no. ms. bush. mr. gomez? mr. gomez votes no ms. stansberry. ms. stansberry both no. mr. garcia. mr. garcia votes no. mr. frost. mr. frost votes no. ms. lee votes no. mr. kosar votes no. ms. crockett. ms. crockett votes no. mr. goldman. mr. moscowitz. mr. moscowitz both no. ms. tlaib votes no. mr. chairman. mr. chairman votes aye. mr. fallon is not yet recorded.

mr. biggs. mr. biggs votes aye. ms. mace. >> this is a motion to table the motion to subpoena rudy giuliani. >> it doesn't seem to have a lot to do with this. >> ms. mace votes aye. >> mr. le turner votes aye. mr. fallon. mr. donald's. mr. armstrong. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. perry. mr. timmons. mr. burchard. ms. green. ms. mclean. ms. mclean votes i. mr. fry. mr. fry votes aye. mr. edwards. mr. edwards votes aye. mr. langworthy. esther burlison? mr. burlison votes aye. mr. raskin. >> no. >> mr. raskin votes no. >> ms. norton votes no. mr. lynch votes no. mr. connolly. mr.,? mr. mfume. >> he votes no. ms. o'connor feel cortez. she votes nate. ms. porter votes no. ms. bush. mr. gomez? mr. gomez votes no ms. stansberry. ms. stansberry both no. mr. garcia. mr. garcia votes no. mr. frost. mr. frost votes no. ms. lee votes no. mr. kosar votes no. ms. crockett. ms. crockett votes no. mr. goldman. mr. moscowitz. mr. moscowitz both no. ms. tlaib votes no. mr. chairman. mr. chairman votes aye. mr. fallon is not yet recorded.

archer's testimony that mr. biggs entirely relies upon but they don't want him to come sit here. why? well, maybe because he testified that joe biden never discussed business with hunter or other business associates, got nothing from their businesses and never took any official acts related to the businesses. or maybe the american people might hear that this $3.5 million from the woman actually had nothing to do with hunter biden which is what devon archer testified. what about eric schwerin, his accountant, and administrative and bookkeeping tasks for then vice president biden and hunter biden. he saw vice president biden's bank accounts and he told the committee that he was not aware of any involvement by president biden in the financial conduct of his relative's businesses much less transactions into or out of then vice president's bank account related to business conducted by any family member. and the list goes on, we have already talked about rudy giuliani, and the reason is, you bring in the fact witnesses and your case goes down the drain. so let's talk about what your al

bigs: -- force mr. biggs: in history many developers will look at a property that has fallen into disrepair and see a building ripe for destruction. in his own words he says, quote, each real estate project as an opportunity to enhance the fabric of arizona city's one development at a time. whether refusing to take advantage of those affected by the housing crash or working with tenets to make it through the covidary without closing doors, he's always remained focus on protecting the economic health and social health of our cities and residents. your enduring legacy is one of inspiration, renewal, and compassion. you set new standards in your industry and your community. you made an immeasurable impact on the lives of countless arizonans. on behalf of arizona's 5th congressional district, thank you for inspiring others with your unwavering commitment to make communities better than you found them. i pay overwhelm madge -- homage to you. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlema

chairman, i rise to offer amendment number 8 as designee of mr. biggs of arizona. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 8 printed in part d of house report 118-216 offered by mr. crain of oklahoma. -- mr. crane of oklahoma. of arizona. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 723, the gentleman from arizona, mr. crane, and a member opposed each will control five minutes. mr. crane: i rise to speak in support of this amendment which eliminates nearly $39 million in funding for the united states institute of peace. this institute funds programs located in several adversarial nations including china, pakistan and russia. their mission is to combat violence and promote peace through education. however, the institute covers issues, areas such as gender equality, lgbtq+ rights, climate policy. hardly topics relate t.d. peace between nations. the united states institute of peace claims to prioritize u.s. national security while using u.s. funds to counsel and mitigate feuds with known enemies of the united states. the expenses of thi

as mr. biggs twice. >> probably. >> but this crime organization was designed for him. >> he made a lot of money, first of all, he had more money than he had made in the long time. he had found a newfound family. that respected him. that thought he was intelligent. he didn't want to lose that. >> but perhaps the most convincing argument was from denis himself. when she went to see him in jail. for all those years, he told her, the police would not leave him alone. and his meeting with the crime boss, he said, was the chance to make the investigation stop. >> we're going to talk to each other and work out these problems. we are going to fix them. okay? that's what we're going to do. we're going to fix them. >> he said, i couldn't just tell him i did nothing. then they can't help me. and so, he says, i made up a story. and i thought they would find me some kind of an alibi. or something. they would fix it so that these cops would get off my case. he had such a miserable, lonely life. that i believe t

mr. joe biggs khan plow boys leader enrique tarrio and they spoke for several minutes. the very next day the proud boys got to work. >> the proud boys launched encrypted chat called the ministry of self-defense. the committee obtained hundreds of these messages, which show strategic and tactical planning about january 6th, including maps of washington d. c. that pinpoint the location of police. in the weeks leading up to the attack, leaders and both the proud boys and the oath keepers worked with trump allies. >> donald trump is slated to head to trial in march for his role in the attempted coup. tarrio, 39 years, old will spend the next 22 years behind bars for trying to carry out a conspiracy to steal the election, overthrow the government, and keep trump in power. attorney general merrick garland released a statement saying, quote, the leader of the proud boys, enrique tarrio, one of the consequences of conspiring to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power is 22 years in federal prison. tom jacqueline is a reporter for the washington post. he's at t

the gentleman my friend from arizona mr. biggsrested -- recognized for five minutes. >> appreciate the updates you have given us. in 2018 the trafficking and overdose prevention act was sent to law and that was to prevent shipment of sentinel through the mail by requiring advanced electronic inbound packages shipped to the u.s. postal service. private carries a bigger car to carry this electronic tracking information as well since 2022. over last year some of our same college ritter office to express concerns about the issues of the excessive number of waivers issued two countries beyond the scope intended by law. the g8 a. overreport indicates from 2016 to 2021 male and automobiles were the top to convey its types used for drugs that were seized to the data dayton report suggests ebp components made more than 225,000 drug seizures conceal the mail parcels over this time period and i'd like to submit that to the record record. >> without objection it will be entered into the record pace pace back and what we can supply an update o

. >> the chair recognizes mr. biggs. >> mr.hairman, when a member of the committee in humans the integrity of a witness is it against the rules to allow those witnesses to respond to that malicious statement? [inaudible] >> i'm not asking you. i'm asking the chairman for a ruling on that. >> he can use his own time to question then when he wants. >> i was recognized on a point of order. >> what's your point? >> my point is [inaudible] >> the witnesses have the opportunity to address that during a line of questioning. if mr. turley wants to address that during another line of questioning that he is more than welcome to do that. we are under a five minute clock, and now the chair recognizes ms. mace from south carolina. >> thank you, mr. chairman. in 2019, representative raskin didn't think a vote was needed for the impeachment inquiry. and to quote representative raskin, he said in 2019 there is no formal prosecution no statutory or even a house rule for how in impeachment inquiry is to begin. so that means different things to d

mrs. cohen. >> is your microphone on? thank you. >> dear chairman biggs, jackson lee and distinguished members of the subcommittee. thank you for inviting me and my respected colleagues to discuss how we can better protect now -- >> ms. cohen, could you pull the mic a little closer to you, please? we all want to hear you. thank you. we know you have an important message. >> should i start over? >> yes, that would be fine. let's go ahead and restart. there we go. >> dear chairman biggs, i emperor jackson lee and established members of the subcommittee thank you for , inviting me and my respected colleagues to discuss how we can better protect children from trafficking and online exploitation. i am lori cohen, the chief executive officer at pact, protect all children from trafficking pier previously known as eck pat usa. pact remains a proud member of the global network active in over 100 countries. we are survivor informed and i'd like to recognize pact board member and survivor council liaison catrina massey who has joined us today for this testimony. wel

chairman biggs, and congresswoman dean, thank you for sending a clear message today. god's children are not for sale. >> thank you, mr. russo. the chair now recognizes ms. basham for five minutes. summa thank you chairman biggs and representative dean, it's an honor to testify before you today on child expectation both here in the united states and internationally. today we have an opportunity to address one of the most important human rights issues, but also one of the most critical global security issues facing our world. the exfiltration of children for profit by human traffickers, smugglers and advanced criminal networks. child exploitation and six trafficking is big business and unlike any other human rights abuse, it's a transnational organized crime. this is the subcommittee on crime and human trafficking specifically generates $150 billion in profits for traffickers annually and it is the second largest criminal enterprise in the world. the average age of sex victims targeted is just 11 to 14 years old. china, russia, north korea, the taliban and terrorist groups all used child trafficking to fund their opera

biggs', attorney there, norman pattis. he said, "how are they supposed to know that mr trump was full of hot air", in his words.here. yeah, it's an interesting question. and it remains to be seen whether this really implicates president trump or whether people will think that he's associated with both of these fringe groups. so, you know, that sort of remains to be seen. i think the president so far has has, if anything, used these indictments and, of course, the mug shot last week to his advantage. so, you know, he's got major bumps in the polling from the indictments as well as bumps in fundraising. so i don't know if this will finally be one of the issues that actually affects him negatively. but so far, he's, you know, in many respects taken advantage of the prosecutions. does that concern you? because it shouldn't be that way, should it? no, no, definitely. and i think, i mean, in many respects, it seems like the left and much of the legacy media in the us wants trump to be the candidate. and that's probably, i think, one of the reasons that they've continued with the indictments, is because they really do

mr trump had arguably encouraged others to commit. well, as peter bowes mentioned there, norman pattis was the attorney for proud boys leaderjoseph biggster the sentencing he drew the link between his client and donald trump. let's listen to what he said. i think there is a broader country crisis of legitimacy going on in this country right now. look at the current presidential race. donald trump in all of this, he stood on the ellipse, basically told people, 74 ellipse, basically told people, 7a million of his followers, the election is stolen, go to the election is stolen, go to the capital, fight like hell or you would have a country anymore. some people listen. but they supposed to know he was full of hot air and was he full of hot air? i look forward to his trials and seeing him testify someday. if your president tells you, your country has been stolen, the country has been stolen, the country that people fought and died for, people are trying to take your boat from you, how are you supposed to react to that? and these people reacted violently and to the detriment. live now to adam klasfeld, senior legal correspondent for the mess

mr. trump: we fightwe fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you are not going to have a country anymore. >> joseph sobbed in court and begged for lean -- joseph biggsd in court and begged for leniency. his lawyer blamed the former president. >> where is donald trump in this? he stood on the ellipse and told his people, 74 million followers, go to the capitol and fight like hell. some people listen to him. >> dominic pezzola has been sentenced to 10 years in prison. in a debate with joe biden before the 2020 election, donald trump refused to condemn a violence and name checked the proud boys. mr. trump: proud boys, stand back and standby. >> proud boys leader enrique tarrio will be sentenced next week. donald trump himself is facing two criminal prosecutions related to his attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. he is due in court next year over the actions to stop joe biden being confirmed as the president. if convicted, he could be facing a lengthy prison sentence. sarah smith, bbc news, washington. rajini: now let's go live to the executive director of the one people's project, which has tracked the proud boys since their creation. good t