find that a nonsensical if you go back again, if you just listen to what people say, where is stephen cohen would say, put yourself in the other guy shoes. you know, the russian objective is, be nice vacation in demilitarization. it's demilitarized thing you break. it's not seeking territory per se, smell that may change in the future when russia has its own offensive. my point in bringing up those 2 points is that the, the, the, the narratives are so skewed. i mean, there's nothing just each other. and i think that's an intentional again, but on the, on the part of the blankets and all the rest of them not just skewed. i guess. i think the point made by a little bit and the interview with them tucker was burning and he said, look, the west just doesn't understand the russian. this is the problem. you know, you have this different ideas, different perspectives on democracy, state building and on the future. of, of how people consider around the countries russians place. huge emphasis on the size and unity of the country. first and foremost before so cool, west and ideas of democracy and ent

i don't know what stephen was asking jonathan cohen, what do you do to try and defend yourself againsts been russell brand for years, have spoken about his addictions to sex, to, drugs and drink. and it's almost when these allegations have come out, it's almost fallen on deaf ears because russell brand said, i've been telling you, this is who i've been for years. so even though it feels like we're only getting one side the story of getting one side of the story of these women , actually, they're these women, actually, they're now responding to now coming up and responding to all the stuff that russell has said that he's done i >> -- >> but this 5mm km >> but this is this very difficult situation you find yourself in. and whereas, obviously, if people are making complaints it's cannot be complaints, it's they cannot be ignored . and they you have to ignored. and they you have to take these things seriously. that's quite right that you do so. but what what hasn't happened here is any police investigation. >> not yet. stephen i can imagine for the police now , it's imagine for the police