well, i've got to say, zac garner, purkis , to say, zac garner, purkis, investigations editor for thene investigations editor for the online daily express, you've done a terrific job. you've exposed a very, very important story . thank you for coming in story. thank you for coming in and sharing it with us, although i expect a lot of you at home and listening on radio will have been utterly furious to hear what zach's just been saying. but there we are. that is the absolute truth of it. in a moment, we'll talk about an exodus of people who've qualified in the national health service and will also go to australia. there's a referendum coming up next month. the result is going to be just as dramatic , if not more so, than the brexit vote here in 2016. all of that in a couple of minutes . radio. >> just last night i was outside the studio too. young fellas, mid—twenties , came up to speak mid—twenties, came up to speak to me. they were both in their seventh year, getting fully trained as doctors . and one of trained as doctors. and one of them said to me, i'm off. i said, what do you mea