and speak for a long time in support, in particular of ukraine, engaged in education, this is ann applebownrian, and the croatian writer slavenka drakolici, here are mrs. slovenka and mrs. en, they declared that in fact we are wrong when we speak so harshly, radically about the russians, we need to rely on them, that there are dissidents, there there are still good people, and that's why we need to have a dialogue with them and somehow try to be friends so that... together, well, you understand everything, so that we can unite together and oppose this putin regime in every possible way, at the end of this discussion, two female viewers asked a question from the hall, and i would not say that it was a direct conflict, a conflict, but such a tense situation arose because, for example, there was a journalist in the hall, my colleague yana brynzeyeva, and she asked a question, the question was that ms. slavenka wrote her last book and yana said that it was such for her a cold shower, because there the author described the russian mother of the fallen soldier and the ukrainian mother of the fall

and even more tension occurred when they were also staged from the hall the question is already anne applebown, and the viewer, she said that she had a lot of russian friends, she lived somewhere abroad, and all these russian friends. who called themselves liberals, but they did not even ask after the start of the full-scale invasion how she was, if she was alive, instead, they began to worry not about solving the situation, but if they would remove responsibility from themselves, if they would also impose the status of victims on themselves, which mrs. anna, i think i reacted enough, but she didn't like the question, and here i'm imagining it again... developed this problem of ours, so when our speakers, cultural diplomats talk about how they are trying to prove something to someone abroad, and they are called radical, too emotional, that you are traumatized, in general, it is racism to reduce the entire russian nation to some absolutely dekun there, uncivilized people who cannot change, and here is mrs. ann, let's finally listen to what she said, i prefer that we stay on the plane of ideas,