the next period was achieve in that end, and so eventually i was active in england, and i was seen as a campaign, uh, brayton, the braghton. operation for all of its importance in terms of its targeting was part of a campaign, we believe that the only way to get the brits to the negotiating table was for sustained campaign, not one operation, no matter how significant could achieve that, it was about get a long term, attack in england, and i think eventually we did that after lot of stops and starts and i wasn't part of that, i was in jail by that stage, uh, we'd have operated in england, withdrew because of logistics involved, and then come back to it, that wasn't a plan, the sort of pressure that was going to be needed, it took us a long time, a long time for the movement to gain what was needed, and eventually it did, pat, i suppose we know that the people are operating in england, in britain at all, there were sometimes greater risks and certainly the way they were treated after. and all the rest was um seem to be pretty brutal and i'm thinking of people like loire and martine anderson um the baltic stre