host: the lines are open for viewers to join the conversation with james waller of the or street institute senior fellow there. you can --democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002. you mention the callers this morning. the topic of the conversation has been a motion to vacate, i wonder your thoughts on that and o'toole used by members of congress to put pressure on the leadership. was is always going to happen as soon as mccarthy made the deal to allow one member of congress to offer this motion to vacate that was needed to secure enough votes for the speakership back in january? guest: the rules are not a constraint. it is not like you live at home and you have a curfew and your parents tell you you have to be home by 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. and if you don't it is their consequences. the rules of congress do not work the same, they leverage administrators republicans and democrats alike to participate in the process and they give them leverage and that is a good thing. it does not matter you're standing, it is a good thing. that is why our elected

host: the lines are open for viewers to join the conversation with james waller of the or street institute. you can --democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002. you mention the callers this morning. the topic of the conversation has been a motion to vacate, i wonder your thoughts on that and o'toole used by members of congress to put pressure on the leadership. was is always going to happen as soon as mccarthy made the deal to allow one member of congress to offer this motion to vacate that was needed to secure enough votes for the speakership back in january? guest: the rules are not a constraint. it is not like you live at home and you have a curfew and your parents tell you you have to be home by 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. and if you don't it is their consequences. the rules of congress do not work the same, they leverage administrators republicans and democrats alike to participate in the process and they give them leverage and that is a good thing. it does not matter you're standing, it is a good thing. that is why our elected representatives go t