i'm active at the national level longer than everybody except doctor lee edwards, lee is different, i'veknown since 1960 one, he came to the phone one time and said let's have lunch with this young conservative, he doesn't know you, you don't know him. we had a nice lunch at the mayflower hotel. it went so well, i invited morton back for another lunch and the end of the lunch, morton set i spoke the magic words to amend the magic words i spoke were i want you to come work with me and help me build the conservative movement. i gave him a pay increase. anyway after some years, he left and ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house and after that he left and started something called the leadership institute and almost no organization i can think of is more important to the conservative movement than the leadership institute, they trained over 1/4 of a million younger people, many governors, senators, legislators over the years. as we speak, my president of my company, i am chairman, in jerusalem, four five other marketers and he's teaching a couple hundred people in europe, conse