marc rowan joins us this morning. >> thank you for having me.is your alma mater, so let's just talk about how this came about, what was going through your head, what kind of conversations you have had that led you to write this. >> this is not, at the end of the day, about free speech, because i -- whether people like it or not, me personally, and most people, support free speech. there are always going to be racists and haters. this is about a university-condoned conference, university professors, university supported, and the inability of leadership to exercise any sort of moral clarity with respect to saying, this is hate. this is anti-semitism, this is racism, but we're going to allow it. that condemnation should not be so hard. unfortunately, if you lack moral courage, it is hard. >> so, this festival took place, i believe, three weeks ago now, three or four weeks ago. >> little less. >> before the terrible and disgraceful attacks that took place on israel by hamas. what were you thinking then, about going public then, whether conversations

marc rowan roe last month month at the festival featured, quote, well known antisemite and fomenters-- in a statement last month the schools that they emphatically and unequivocally condemn antisemitism, but that is fiercely supports the -- back with me tonight, former florida congressman, ted deutch, now the ceo of the american jewish committee. ted, what do you think of this? >> i think that the universities across the country need to do a better job of tackling antisemitism. and there will be time to revisit that specific issue. but, stephanie, right at this moment there are events taking place on college campuses of students standing in support of hamas terrorists. the guy that was produced for the student groups behind this spoke openly about a war for liberation. if standing on the side of terrorists who slaughtered over 1200 israelis, injured more than 3000 and included in those numbers are americans. there are 27 u.s. citizens who were killed. there are 14 more, at least, who are being held hostage. that has an impact on the jewish community and when students right around cam

jeffrey: in a cnbc interview, marc rowan, ceo of a private equity firm and chair of the board of advisersersity of pennsylvania's wharton school, called on fellow penn alumni to stop donating. another prominent penn alumnus, former utah governor and ambassador jon huntsman, announced he would do just that. rowan also called for university leaders to resign for allowing a palestinian literary festival in september that included what he called hate-filled rhetoric and for not speaking out forcefully enough after the hamas attack. marc: this is not an issue of woke or anti-woke. this is an issue of right or wrong. is is a group, hamas, that believes that the jews should be killed. this is a group that is a terrorist group. the inability to actually say that is morally confused and bankrupt. jeffrey: a harvard alumnus, hedge fund billionaire bill ackman, called for the names of students tied to groups that signed the public letter blaming israel for the initial attack to be circulated so employers can avoid hiring them. and individual students at harvard have been targeted through the practic

. >>> marc rowan the ceo of apollo global management, graduate of university of pennsylvania and chairmanisors for penn's wharton business school is coming out and urging alumni to halt donations to the school until two key leaders resign. at issue, a university hosted event last month called the palestinian right the festival. rowan is urging the university to condemn the hamas attacks on israel. here's rowan speaking on "squawk box" this morning. >> this is not an issue of woke or anti-woke. this is an issue of right or wrong. this is a group, hamas, that believes that the jews should be killed. read the charter behind every rock you should seek out the jews and kill them. this is what we're talking about. not a political solution or disagreements over how israel has treated palestinians in the west bank and gaza. this is a group that is a terrorist group. the inability to actually say that, is morally confused and bankrupt and some have gotten it right. >> in response to a question andrew asked about ceos and companies being more afraid lately to speak out on issues that are divisive o