first, a friend of mine once said, we're about as close to agi as a slide rule.e on this stuff people have theoretical concerns about agi but practically speaking, if this comes down to a safety question, i'm not worried about safety from a personal perspective any time soon to the effect it has anything to do with the speed of a.i. being too fast for the goals of the openai board, i personally am comfortable with that and i'm comfortable with a narrative was sam was pushing too hard and too fast versus the nonprofit's ultimate theoretical goals if something else comes out, the new ceo of openai, the second of the weekends, he was a good guy. i know him from earlier tech days, has said his first order of business is going to be to kind of do an investigation and put out a report of what actually happened. so, i'm sure that will be hotly watched. look, i could be wrong, but i do trust satya as a leader. i trust that while this was a crazy period, we're all going to look back and think microsoft played it brilliantly, is my personal belief. >> when it comes to meta

so that's one thing i think about is don't get distracted by agi. let's focus on these short term harms. and then the second part is how are people going to succeed in lawsuits? again against these companies? because while i do agree with your fundamental thesis that there is this of out of control quality and forgive me if i butcher your thesis here but but know that there's this there's a mega net is taking form right that sort of is supra corporate supranational in a way. at the same time, i think that that is all driven by incentives and those financial incentives think can be shaped and typically have been shaped in past. we've seen it with cigarets. we're seeing it increasingly with guns by lawsuits. and i think that basically, if you know, it used to be like for about three or four years ago, there was a survey went around that asked ctos at these big companies do know how the ai models you are using and the vast majority of them had no idea. and then it also asked do you care and and an even greater number of them did not care and that is a

power struggles between people that have very different ideologies around how to develop so—called agily what we saw this weekend. in the last years since chat gpt was released, there have essentially been to factions within the company that have always existed there it started to accelerate in their position in polarising in opposite and extreme directions. there was a camp really focused on commercialising and building products, trying to put this technology in the hands of users and were very energised by this premise. there were also people like you said, the tumours or the ai safety cap that were concerned about how quickly were being put into peoples hands and also how quickly the capabilities were in fencing and they were seeing real world examples of what happens when a very powerful technology is suddenly placed in the hands of 100 million users. —— so called doomers. what we saw this week and was basically the culmination of a year of tension that happened between these two camps fighting over whether or not it was better to commercialise and speed up or better to completely

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major power struggles between people that are very different ideologies around how to develop so—called agiis what we saw again this weekend. in the last year since chatgpt was released there have been to function the company always existed that's not exhilarating in position and polarising in opposite extreme directions. there was a camp that was really focused on commercialising, building products, trying to put this technology in the hands of users and they were very energised by this premise. there were also people like you said, the douma for sometimes called the ai safety camp, they were very concerned about how quickly the technology was being put into people's hands and how quickly capabilities for advancing and they were seeing real—world examples of what happens when a very powerful technology is suddenly placed in the hands of 100 million users. but we saw this weekend was basically the combination of a year of tension that happened between these two camps kind of fighting over whether or not it was better to commercialise and speed up or better to completely stop and slow down,

but let me just ask you, i mean, when you talk about agi, right, that that that what is it, artificial general negligence that's different from what we have now, where we asked chatgpt a question or trained to do a certain thing and then it does that. it's like it becomes a thinker like us where we can i don't know, just generally think, my goodness, okay, kevin, i'm told i'm out of time because as we got to go, it's probably the ai saying this. so what can i do? it's my master. thank you, kevin. appreciate the story. thank you. all right. you can check out kevin's story and more of the san francisco standard's other original reporting on their website, shefs. standard.com. we'll be right cancer is a journey you don't take alone. you did it! our cancer care team works together to care for all that is you. >>> tonight, the storm system hitting now, several major airports and up i-95, right through new york city tonight. >>> we also have breaking news on the hostages coming in now. >>> first tonight, with millions of americans traveling for thanksgiving, this major storm sweeping across

so the question is, what is agi?ce of software, a computer that can take a whole bunch of tests and these tests reflect basic intelligence, and by achieving -- by completing those tests, deliver results that are fairly competitive to a normal human, i would say that within the next five years, you're going to see obviously ais that can achieve those tests. >> and design the chips you're making right now? >> yeah, yeah. >> will you need to have the same staff that designs them? >> none of our chips are possible today without ai. literally, the h-100s we're shipping today were designed with a lot of the assistance of ai. otherwise, we wouldn't be able to optimize the algorithms to the levels we have. software can't be written without ai, chips can't be designed without ai. nothing's possible. >> we started talking about open ai, what did you make of what happened? the ousting of sam altman and the return of sam altman. all of it? >> first of all, i'm happy that they're settled. and i hope they're settled. it was a real

so that's one thing i think about is don't get distracted by agi. let's focus on these short term harms. and then the second part is how are people going to succeed in lawsuits? again against these companies? because while i do agree with your fundamental thesis that there is this of out of control quality and forgive me if i butcher your thesis here but but know that there's this there's a mega net is taking form right that sort of is supra corporate supranational in a way. at the same time, i think that that is all driven by incentives and those financial incentives think can be shaped and typically have been shaped in past. we've seen it with cigarets. we're seeing it increasingly with guns by lawsuits. and i think that basically, if you know, it used to be like for about three or four years ago, there was a survey went around that asked ctos at these big companies do know how the ai models you are using and the vast majority of them had no idea. and then it also asked do you care and and an even greater number of them did not care and that is a

and agi is going to continue to advance every industry will be changed by ai going to lead to incredibleh also lead to incredible job disruption working on ideas at institute of finding ways where, you can have jobs that are being replaced by automation, a.i., create small business opportunities and you entrepreneurship opportunities in case of uber having uber drivers owns self-driving cars to make income around the have a small business not lose a job be unemployed but proud business owners, finally i want to say one thing about israel biden's support of israel very commendable but, at the same time, biden support of israel needs equally strong he needs to be equally strong in his opposition to the iranian terrorist regime there should not be any negotiations on iran nuclear deal, and needs to really support the iranian people to also become free after 44 years being held hostage. >> good to get you on the show your take on all of that thank you, sir. , ice cube is here with us we will talk about, his latest accomplishments why black voters are turning away from joe biden you are watch

if you think about what agi is, people confuse it with a human — intelligence is not the same as beingform intellectual tasks like you and me, like a human. so if you now have a model that can do that, you can start to see that you could solve real—world problems. where this is exciting as scientific research. you would've never used of the current models that exist today that have excited the masses and captured the imagination of the public on scientific research because it gets the maths wrong. it makes assumptions that are not correct. if they have solved this problem, — you can look at social media and see what people are saying 0* actually is, and you can start to see how that's possible — and we are getting closer to that, but... that's possible — and we are getting closerto that, but... just that's possible - and we are getting closer to that, but. . ._ closer to that, but... just going back to sam — closer to that, but... just going back to sam altman, _ closer to that, but... just going back to sam altman, the - closer to that, but... just going back to sam altman, the view i

well, eric trump dug becoming agi agitated, visibly frustrated, raising his voice and saying he fully understood that they had financial statements but he said "i had no involvement nor ever worked on my father's financial statements." so trying to draw a distinction between any financial information he might be providing. but these actual statements that are at the heart of the case that the judge has already ruled to be fraudulent. now, his testimony is going to continue into tomorrow. and that's because at the end of the day as the attorney general's office was about to ask him about his dash certing his fifth amendment rights during a deposition several years ago, his lawyers objected and one of trump's attorneys, chris kise, had mentioned something to the judge referring to his clerk. and this is the clerk that has been at the center of the gag order where the former president has been fined for making references to her. well, the judge got irritated by that, suggested that trump's attorney was misogynist for referencing her and said he might even expand this gag order. but trump

counterweight to these commercial entities like google that were developing artificial general intelligence or agirter than humans. so it wanted to be that counterweight, this nonprofit, this open version of it that benefits, quote, all humanity. now that board, that nonprofit board governs the commercial arm that was created four years later, and that board has a say over what the commercial arm does, and people say there is tension between the commercial aspect, the for-profit aspect and the nonprofit aspect, but we don't know for certain. will: now on, i mean, immediate reaction -- and we're talking about, what, 36 hours, 24 hours and a push to bring him back. >> yes. and this is, it's really, really interesting because other reports are that there's tension between the research arm and the product arm. sam has a great reputation. if you were paying attention to all of this drama, you'll see that most people sided with sam. they didn't really understand why the nonprofit board that governs the commercial arm did what it did. so look at the investors too. i'm keeping my eyes on microsoft. they c

. >> the agi, the artificial general intelligence, given what you now are working on yourself and you know how easy or hard it is to train, to create the inferences, to create the weights, i hope i'm not getting too far in the weeds of how this works, but those are the basics behind the software end of this. >> it's funny. all these weights are different numbers in a separated file. found that funny. but that's kind of literally what it is. so i think it's coming pretty fast, you know. >> is that -- i mean, you have -- you have famously admitted to overstating how quickly things will happen, but how quickly do you think this will happen? >> they say smarter than the smartest human at anything? >> yep. >> it may not be quite smarter than all humans, machine or augmented humans because we could build machines and stuff. it's a higher bar. but it can write as good a novel as j.k. rowling or discover new technology, i'd say we're less than three years from that point. >> let me ask you a question about x ai and what you are doing because there is an interesting thing that's different, i t

not fire him without notice. >> for the audience, agi is artificial generative intelligence that is thee of this is not just what happens with microsoft, but all of the venture capital investors who put money into the for-profit arm of the not-for-profit. there is a big question with thrive and anthropic and others. what is the fiduciary responsibility from the not-for-profit board for the investors in the for-profit entity >> i have been trying to suss that out all weekend what is the leverage that will get the board to move? the unbelievable assumption from everyone, including me, the board is acting on some level of bad faith. they will not explain them seems. they have not released documentation. t if you take the assuassumption, see bad fiaith you see if you can gain leverage over the situation and up until now, they have none. no one has been able to do anything the microsoft announcement that sam and greg would join microsoft is an attempt to gain leverage we will take the principles and you will be the non-profit board of nothing that is one outcome or come back to the table and

one other piece is in the microsoft contract, they do not have access to what's called agi, artificialin fact, open ai has got into anything close to agi, potentially it wouldn't go to microsoft anyway >> yeah, and that was always from the beginning there's a lot to unpack here, and the question really comes down to the board. if they did have these concerns, you know, and keep saying, you know, the statements we are getting from the board was and other executives that altman didn't do anything wrong there's no malfeasance he wasn't like stealing from the company or anything like that and instead of, you know, talking to him about it, it sounds like they just made this idea for a coup, and let's just get rid of him without having a conversation about it. >> it was four of six board members. it's got to scare every founder in silicon valley and beyond at this point what do you do with the board, and the idea of saying, okay, i'm going to be altruistic and not take shares in a company, this has to make you really think that too you probably want not only shares, you want a system setup w

it can be held agis now looking at how addresses react in two the profound threat domestic violence presents. one section of the vioni should hear a wise orr is a finding that the person represents a notable threat to the physical 50 of an intimate rtner or child or at anher provision applies when the order by its terms specific way prohibits the use, attempted use or threatened use offorce really does not wear finding of dangerousness. why is this necessary and how can this be justifie >> ultimately i think it would have to find dangerousness to enter subparagraphs c2 injunction baseonthe general equitable principal that in order to enjoy and conduct you to think it is reasonably likely to her. this is a universal equitable and supple. applies intact is in virtually all of the dates. a judge who is considering west for project of order would not ha base this and want to enter that subparagraphs c2 prohibition on physical force unless the judge thought the force was efficiently likely to materialize >> we are told some of the iefs that there are situations inwhich the family court judge has

this is about what it means to develop agi for the benefit of humanity. was a agreement they wanted to do that. there was a disagreement between the division of the nonprofit board and the direction the rest of the company was going. that played out the last few days. i think it's clear where the -- who -- basically who won that debate. and it's clear those who want to accelerate and have a fission that faster development of a.i. benefits society won that debate. >> right. they won. so we can expect they'll continue to move at a fairly quick pace. do you, as somebody who studies the area and knows the company, do you have any concerns? do you share perhaps the concerns of the former board members? >> i'm somewhat agnostic on this. i'm taking an outsider view of the situation. what i think i can say is it will be harder to maintain those guardrails that they -- you know, this company, its founding was as a nonprofit, and they really did want to adhere to these kind of very deliberate development of a.i. but i think what we've seen in the last year as the g

eand ut then agis,1. but he did. and the point is, is that feels he has to.s apologising for things in past and call things in the past and to call somebody transvestite, mean, somebody a transvestite, i mean, he's some he's basically saying some transvestites attractive. this could >> yeah, this could be a compliment. be. compliment. yeah, it could be. it's i think it's it's not just him. i think it's frankie boyle as well. you know? >> now someone like >> and now there's someone like frankie bless him. frankie boyle. god bless him. he's. he's that woman who i'm spending with. spending a lot of time with. sorry ladies, who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry la boyle who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry la boyle and who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry laboyle and frankie ves spending a lot of time with. sorry laboyle and frankie boyle frankie boyle and frankie boyle now is holier than thou among the left wingers like yourself. steve, he's like a great guy. lewis schaffer is not a great quy- >> well, well, let's ask steve about that. i m

an ai research and development company, its mission to ensure that artificial general intelligence, agiam altman was at the helm of ai, the company at the forefront of fast-moving artificial intelligence technology that could change the way the world works. >> altman is the zuckerberg of social media musk to electric vehicles. he's the golden child. >> reporter: the board fired altman, without elaborating, blaming transparency issues, writing to employees, his removal was, quote, necessary to preserve the board's ability to execute its responsibilities and advance the mission of this organization >> four board members of a company with 700 people essentially control a technology that could change every aspect of our lives does washington need to be involved here? >> i mean, this is probably the biggest example of disaster of corporate governance that i have seen in 25 years. >> reporter: but what looks like disaster for open ai could turn into a bonn for others microsoft, a heavy investor in openai moved quickly, hiring altman and his generals. and amid an ai arm's race for talent, hund

eand ut then agis,1. but he did. and the point is, is that feels he has to.s apologising for things in past and call things in the past and to call somebody transvestite, mean, somebody a transvestite, i mean, he's some he's basically saying some transvestites attractive. this could >> yeah, this could be a compliment. be. compliment. yeah, it could be. it's i think it's it's not just him. i think it's frankie boyle as well. you know? >> now someone like >> and now there's someone like frankie bless him. frankie boyle. god bless him. he's. he's that woman who i'm spending with. spending a lot of time with. sorry ladies, who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry la boyle who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry la boyle and who loves spending a lot of time with. sorry laboyle and frankie ves spending a lot of time with. sorry laboyle and frankie boyle frankie boyle and frankie boyle now is holier than thou among the left wingers like yourself. steve, he's like a great guy. lewis schaffer is not a great quy- >> well, well, let's ask steve about that. i m

him, because we have already gone, as if the so-called custar is being developed internally, this is agily... the rest, and he, apparently, according to internal groups, can master mathematical skills, at the student level, in principle, but this is unique, this is just a leap forward, in fact , because in mathematics, unlike generative components , there is, as it were, a correct result, that is, it can interpret the conclusions, in fact, as if this were one of the reasons, this can create a very serious fundamental a leap forward, respectively, in defense issues, in everything when the decision is made. may be accepted by other players, this is now being discussed by everyone in principle, in the entire technical community, this story is being discussed, which is not true, we have two - these generative networks now exist, gigachat, which is sberov's and, accordingly , yandez's, networks we have, our engineers , they are one of the best, we don’t have our own hardware, it urgently needs to be developed and produced, i would like to note that it made sense to do this even before this, a

historically -- this doesn't mean it will happen in the same way, but you would get pretty close to agi, i don't think it is true a.i., but it is a momentous leap forward. that's what the discovery was on the science side. the question is what do you do about that? how do you commercialize it? >> can i pipe in from people in my life and it reflects how i fe felt about this. one person said i lost my job and now they got their job back. i'm supposed to be concerned about this. my wife said why is this guy losing his job? i thefeel that way. >> steve, this is like if we were talking about heisenberg. this is somebody who may be creating something that is so great and such amazing technology revolution and on the other side could be potentially super dangerous. >> i get it. for a week now we have been trying to understand what happened and why it matters. maybe this morning you finally found it? i'm not sure. i'm just -- why -- >> it is about the job loss and the potential for more. >> why create such dysfunction at the board? why are they incapable of dealing with this? it bugs me. >> ope

stick to this, this dignifiediis strategy of you think they'll stick to this, this dignified silence agyo this, thisdignified silence from the the dignified silence from the royal court , or will it become royal court, or will it become such a heated debate? >> they will have to issue a recollections may vary type statement? >> well, i think in private, prince william is going to be particularly angry and especially because of the attacks on the princess of wales, his wife. but their strategy of never complain, never explain appears to be working. opinion polls, the working. the opinion polls, the latest yougov poll shows that william catherine are the william and catherine are the top of the most popular members of the royal family in the united kingdom, whereas harry and spare post and meghan post spare post netflix due slump, netflix content due to slump, the only person below them is prince andrew and again in the us their popularity is suffering as well. >> you've been reading the book. cameron well done for that. and so much has been leaked out to the press. it's been serial ized i

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