julie d o'rourke who i covered in the book. she's got me.72 marble run and i've bought so many beauty products and skin care products. but i think the marble run sticks out as being the most ridiculous. >> because you don't want a plastic one. >> of course not, again, bad mom. >> that wouldn't be good. >> right. [laughter] >> when you were receiving products, were you having like conflicted emotions about it? when i received products that i've bought off instagram, a lot of times i was like, well, this is not great. that was a mistake. and then i feel like, i go through my life thinking i'm smarter than instagram, but then in reality, i'm not necessarily at all. >> right. >> i wish i could say that i felt more of a-- oh, i shouldn't have done this, but i also do think that that's just the way we shop now. it's so enmeshed in how we shop, yeah. i think the marble run though. i think the marble run was like, i set it up for my kids and i was like, now it's magic, magic takes place. >> right. >> and they played with it maybe once. >> were not i