joining me now is historian kristin du mez, author of jesus and john wayne. you on the show. -- thank you for making time. let me just ask you to define as you see it, christian nationalism. what is it, what to its adherence believe and why is it so dangerous? >> generally speaking question ashland some is the idea that america was founded as a christian nation and needs to be defended as such there is a sense that what was once firmly established has been lost. usually the point of the 1960s. and there is a need to restore that christian foundation along with this goes and idea of us versus them. true americans are christian americans. and the laws of the nation ought to be based on god's loss. and anybody against this view is not a true american. and really shouldn't be given the authority to shape the nation. >> and i want to just point out in an interview you did with politico you note you're not using the term christian nationalist as a perjorative. you say it's merely a descriptive device, which leads me to the beliefs of mike johnson. in particular, do

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