life of kyiv at that time in the 60s and early 70s, it was largely carnivalized, well, the same parodzhanov at the center of this group, which also included mykolaichuk, and ilyenko and balayan, many younger and slightly older cinematographers, and they met almost every day, not just by the way, at parajan's, let's say, in yanukovych's apartment, oh my god , yakutovych, it was also such a band, and they, they 're like parranjanov, it's a holiday all the time, festivity, there are a lot of such stories, that's how roman howls balayan still, when he hears something, as if it were a true version from parodzhan, says, seriously, the truth, well, the same mykolaichuk, what a fantasy, once, when i spoke with him for the first time, well, not the first time, well, in the first period, in the house creativity, and we left after a long conversation, and leonid cherrivatko, who knew him much better, looked at on zora, he says to me, he says to me, well, how, i say, well, it’s great, how much he told everything, he says, and yet, first of all, he says, but how beautiful, because ivan was also carried,