we have kimberly dozier and retired brigadier general peter zwack with us. i want to start with you, kim, because something that lieutenant colonel conricus said to me and it's the characterization of the jabalia refugee camp. it's described as a refugee camp, we've learned that somewhere around hundreds of civilians were either wounded or killed there in this first attack yesterday, perhaps many more in the second strike, but the lieutenant colonel, the idf spokesperson, he describes it as a hamas stronghold, as a legitimate military target. how do you see that? >> well, as u.s. intelligence will tell you, hamas is riddled throughout the gaza strip in civilian areas and they put their facilities, their headquarters, their weaponry underneath and next to civilian homes. in terms of the refugee camp description, a little bit about palestinian geography in those territories, the refugee camps were established decades ago so now if you see the pictures of the before and the after, it's a breeze block built neighborhood of standing houses. in terms of this parti