rachel swarns, a journalist, author and associate professor journalism at nyu. she writes about race and race relations and a contributing writer for the new york times, where i first read her on the subject. she wrote book on her work, been recognized by the national endowment for humanities, the ford foundation, the leon levy center i biography artists residencies and, other programs. she is the author. first book was american tapestry story of the black, white and multiracial ancestors of michelle obama, and she is a coauthor of unseen, unpublished black history from the new york times, her most book is the 272, which we'll hear about in a moment. kidada williams is like me, a professor of history. she teaches at wayne state in detroit. she is the author of two amazing books. i death coming, which she will be talking about today. and they left great marks me her she is a coauthor of the charleston syllabus, which was a collection of writings, was put out after the massacre in charleston. that was an amazing thing. kidada and she is the creator of a podcast se