and brigitte ziegler, to a degree, is also following that sort of same playbook. a few weeks, a few months, who knows what's gonna happen. >> that's interesting that he's not saying anything. what about her group? what's the influence that moms for liberty still has at this point? >> that has yet to be seen. it was interesting, that, when the story first broke, moms for liberty posted the statement on social media on the platform formally known as twitter, and supported her as sort of a bass woman, i believe was her face. -- they have distance themselves from brigitte ziegler. she's also sort of separated from them. but she said, look, -- i'm gonna stay on the board. >> mark caputo, it's always something done in florida, but this is really something else. thank you for joining us. >> it's always shady in florida, yes. >> indeed. up next, jonathan major is an emerging hollywood star. he's been dropped just in the last few hours by disney's marvel studios after he was found guilty in a domestic violence case. it was very closely watched. we'll tell you what the jury

>> well, anderson, the school board doesn't have the authority to remove brigitte ziegler, only governor ron desantis can. so far, the governor has not called on her to step aside. as for christian ziegler, the executive committee of the florida republican party is going to meet this weekend, and they're going to decide whether to suspend christian ziegler and take a vote of no confidence. right now, anderson, both zieglers remain in their leadership positions. >> carlos suarez, just ahead, what some are calling historic agreement today, the united nations cop28 climate summit in dubai, then there's the oil and gas indudustry, thosose who have beenen applaudining it, billll r has thatat story comoming up. >> about two weeks weeks of controversial negotiations over questions about how the world should address the climate crisis and deal is reached today, the united nations climate summit, cop28 in dubai, some nations and climate -- disagreement can really be counted as a victory. cnn's bill weir has more. >> of the 198 nations that gathered in dubai, any one of them could've derailed this

try to bring jordan adams in and have him reshaped the curriculum in the school district, was brigitte zieglerin florida. and she brought him in and obviously she represents a very conservative district. she usually she gets her gets what she wants on that school board. but he was so unqualified and there was such little information about what he would actually do that the school board had kind of a revolt and said we're not going to do this. we're not signing this contract. it makes no sense. we don't even understand what the purpose of this person is. but he was able to be successfully retained in a district in pennsylvania, pennridge, and was able to get started there, $125 an hour, with no specific deliverables. and started making his recommendations. >> how much of this is ideology and how much of it is a straight-up financial grift? >> i think it's a marriage of the two things, to be honest. there's a broader movement around the hillsdale 1776 curriculum, which was inspired by trump. there was the new york times came out with the 16 19 project. trump and the maga folks were very upset ab

detectives interviewed brigitte ziegler again, this is the moms for liberty leader, and that it only happened one time she confirmed having a sexual encounter with the victim and christian over a year ago. also interviewed in the affidavit, christian ziegler, with his attorney president, he said he had conceptual sent sex with the victim, took a video of the counter, it said he initially deleted it. something happened here. there's a lot of established other than a person said i think happened. just to be clear about this. it seems like that's provoking the cascade of calls for him to resign. >> right. these are very serious allegations. when you raise those details, those are details that were outlined in official documents. this is not someone who went to the media and is making these accusations. it's someone who has reported to authorities and it was an incredible threat, enough that there was this affidavit filed with the court. and now we are really seeing the demand for taking these accusations seriously. it has been interesting to see this develop, because christians ziegler

brigitte ziegler, the cofounder of the conservative group moms for liberty, refused to resign from her school board after other board members asked her to, saying the scandal was a distraction. -- florida governor ron desantis has called on christian ziegler to step down, but won't go that far with bridget. >> i've called on christian to step down as the rpo f chairman. my understanding is he's the one who is under the criminal cloud. clearly, i think, brigitte, and this is somebody i've worked with, and i really like the work she's done, she's gonna have to look to see how effective she's gonna be able to be in those circumstances. >> reporter: removing the zeroes as one thing both democrats and republicans agree on, even if for different reasons. >> in order for them to attempt to salvage what is left of their party's so-called values, they have to give off the impression of accountability. >> carlos suarez joins me now from atlanta. as you said, christian ziegler has not yet been formally charged. do we know the status of the investigation? >> well, right now, pam, we do not. the sa

his wife brigitte ziegler helped start moms for liberty. -- sources close to the investigation say theedly seen the couple have been involved in a three-year-long consensual three way sexual relationship. msnbc has not confirmed that. he's the wife of the woman who's been leading the charge to get lgbtq content out of florida school books, and yet, at least according -- again, nbc news has been not confirmed it, she's in a three way, which means you know, she's or the b or q. >> it certainly means that kink is not partisan. we've seen that over the millennia, i think that will be the case going forward. i think you point out the right question, joy. we saw this actually in florida by fabiola santiago, who raises the question, how is it the woman that is going after the gay community is able to have sex with another woman and that be okay? so it's a flaming hypocrisy here, in fact, governor desantis, i think, just moments ago or hours ago, called for the resignation of ziegler. so this is florida florida-ing again when it comes to what's happening here. but it certainly a problem for th

. >> brigitte ziegler was upset she didn't get jordan adams in her district, but when jordan adam signed that contract in pennsylvania she said this is great, he will now be able to go in and do what she called a woke audit of the public schools. that's really what she feels is going. on that is what happened. >> is that woke audit including being against, i don't know, threesomes? >> i that i don't know. i would have to defer. >> nothing wrong if it's consenting adults, but i'm just saying, a bit hypocritical. that's tonight's reidout. wishing everyone a happy hanukkah. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >>>right >> tonight on all in. >> why do you think most people still don't feel positive or feel good news about the academy? >> right-wing's hard sale in the face of a soft landing. >> everything the biden administration touches it burns to the ground. >> tonight, a brief history of solved problems in the era of joe biden. >> the grinch has nothing on these people. >> and donald trump launches the one hail mary pass that could push his insurrection trial past the election. >> i

and brigitte and christian ziegler are learning that their public persona's have collided with the truth a glass. thank you all for joining me this morning, i will be back here tomorrow when it welcomes than it judiciary -- mazy her owner of hawaii to authorize subpoenas for gop influencers calling for -- related to a supreme court ethics investigation. remember, you can keep up with us by following at katie phang show on tiktok, ex, and instagram, jonathan capehart is coming up next. ♪ you were always so dedicated... ♪ we worked hard to build up the shop, save for college and our retirement. but we got there, thanks to our advisor and vanguard. now i see who all that hard work was for... it was always for you. seeing you carry on our legacy— i'm so proud. at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner. setting up the future for the ones you love. that's the value of ownership. when you have chronic kidney disease... ...there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here. not so much here. farxiga reduces the risk of kidney failure which can lead to dialysis. ♪far-xi-

thing we know is that more than a year ago, at some point, more than a year ago, the ziegler's, christian and brigitteway sexual encounter with the woman. and that's just about it in terms of the relationship. in terms of how we got the story, mostly from our colleague in sarasota, michael barfield, the head of public access, who originally dug it up. we just got together and started putting the pieces together and got it out there. >> we're glad you did. tom edwards, the irony of this is striking. the zieglers have been at the forefront of the don't say gay law. they are allies of governor ron desantis, until he recently called for mr. ziegler to call down step down. i want to take this from a meeting where you were slandered. take a listen. >> mr. edwards appears to be a law breaker and an lgbt coup groomer. i'm calling into an investigation into mr. edwards and the details of him working from the inside to bring about his woke agenda. >> what tom stands for wants to do to our children in this school district isn't what a majority of -- >> everyone, excuse me, calm down. there have been multiple com

ziegler's wife, brigitte, is a cofounder of moms for liberty, a group that has led the nationwide movementons with sexual orientation, gender identity, institutional racism or anything else they deem incompatible with family values. so those igloos were rock stars in the conservative world in florida until last week. that's when reports surfaced that christians eagle or is under mr. gagen for alleged rape of a woman with whom he and his wife have been having periodic threesomes. according to reports on october 2nd, ziegler's made plans for a threesome with the unnamed woman in her home. but when christian ziegler arrived the woman's home alone, the woman says she was raped and sexually battered by ziegler. christian ziegler has strongly denied the allegation and no charges have been filed at this point. that is not stop nearly every top elected republican in the state of florida from calling on mr. ziegler to resign's party chair. christian ziegler, however, is refusing to step aside. the reason he refuses to step aside is because of donald trump. according to the messenger website, source