david hundain, i'm putting the same question to you, the israeli regime facing anexoders of zionists and workers from asia is now moving to africa for cheap labor, what do you make of these uh? desperate move, so the unfortunate reality of running the sort of um apartite state that the um that the current israely regime runs is that when the when it so happens that the true face, the true ugliness of what it actually means to run an apart state becomes apparent to the world, it causes a lot of embarrassment and people who previously were happy to be associated. with it want to dissociate themselves, so as you rightly said, um, there's there's an exodus of people who do not want to be associated with the current actions of the israel regime in gaza and the occupied west bank, and unfortunately, it seems as if the the um, the alternative that has been adopted by the israeli government is not to reexamine its existing policies and perhaps look for better way of engaging with the world, but it's rather to sort of entrench itself even deeper further into its historical way of viewing thin

david hundain, i'm putting the same question to you, the israeli regime facing anexoders of zionis and workers from asia is now moving to africa for cheap labor, what do you make? these desperate move, so the unfortunate reality of running the sort of um apartite state that the um that the current israeli regime runs is that when the when it so happens that the true face, the true ugliness of what it actually means to run an apart state becomes apparent to the world, it causes lot of embarrassment and people who previously were happy to... to be associated with it, want to dissociate themselves, so as you rightly said, um, there's a there's an exodus of people who do not want to be associated with the current actions of the israeli regime in gaza and the occupied west bank, and unfortunately, it seems as if the the um, the alternative that has been adopted by the israeli government is not to reexamine its existing policies and perhaps look for better way, of engaging with the world, but it's rather to sort of entrench itself even deeper further into its historical way of viewing things

we also have david hundain, the founder of the west african weekly, he's a journalist and author in london. welcome to the program. thank you very much for having me. now let's start off with mr. matthew pax there in south africa. uh, the israeli apart regime is currently moving thousands of africans from countries such as kenya and malawi to labor cams inside occupied territories. amid his genocidal war in gaza. so what's your view on these unfortunate move? "look, we think it's unfortunate, we think that israel right now is engaged in a brutal war against the palestinian people, and we should be minimizing contact and trade with israel, and that would include people from african countries like malawi and kenya going to work on their farms, israel needs to resolve its problems with the palestinian people, because in effect that many of these jobs would normally been occupied by palestinian people, and because of the war against palestinians, the..." longer doing it, so and hence in other words, we're the israelis are employing african labor to try to displace the palestinian people, so we