kara fitzpatrick, who is going to talk about her book, i think it's called the death of public schools, and it's trying to trace the voucher movements. i think you know, she would be a great place. if you're interested in that, to look more at that. but i guess one of my points is, is vouchers is that thing and the evidence really abysmal about. the educational attainment students in those schools as well. so, i mean, just on those basis, i don't think it's like a good use of money in voucher schools. but you are taking money that i mean, most of the people in wisconsin, for example, that are taking advantage of school vouchers already had their children either, never had their children school or already had their children in private school. so it's essentially subsidizing private school. the idea early on was that it would be used to help low income kids. that's really not how it works right now. so but i think there's other mechanisms that don't work that differently. and the one that i'm pointing to in the book is around inter-district open enrollment. okay. especially with virtual