moss was so embarrassed she just left the interview. rudy giuliani's lies impacted moss's family as well. her 14-year-old son was in remote schooling when this all happened because of the pandemic. moss couldn't afford wi-fi. so her son used an old cell phone of hers as a hot spot. but then conspiracy theorists found that phone number. they constantly called him. they constantly messaged. it would knock him out of the class and the teacher wouldn't let you back in. you can't keep coming in and out of the zoom. her 14-year-old son was bombarded with messages that use the n-word or said his mother would be hanged. the child who had been getting good grades started failing every class that year. when shaye moss was asked in the court but she was most afraid of she replied i am most scared of my son finding me or my mom hanging in front of our house in a tree. despite the clear and profound damage that giuliani has continued to lie about rudy ruby freeman and shaye moss, he's continuing to lie about them even tonight. he says he will show t

shea moss, $16 million for defamation. for emotional distress, $20 million, and then on top of that, $75 million in punitive damages, do i have that right? >> that's what i'm seeing as well. one of the things to remember here, is that punitive damages can skyrocket. in cases like this. they're something that really, the jury has a lot of -- there are laws that say, it can't go more than three or four times than the amount of the damages assessed. this is more than $148 million, that's an astonishing amount of money. this is against one man. rudy giuliani, a person, not a xaep or a group -- company or a group of people. >> one man who almost single handyedly ruined the reputations and lives of these two women . and really shocking. evan, really i guess, not surprising in one sense, that the jury was asked to send a message to the election lawyers, who are so careless and reckless, not only with the truth but the reputations of innocent individuals like these two election workers. one was a volunteer. that's an astounding fi

giuliani did defame ruby freeman and shaye moss. what the jury has to decide in the coming days is how much money rudy giuliani should have to pay these two women for that defamation. today in his closing statement freeman and moss' attorney asked the jurors to award the women $24 million each. and that is just in damages for their injuries. their attorney is also asking the jury to award punitive damages of whatever they think is appropriate in order to send a message to rudy giuliani. now, in this trial we have gotten even more detail about the threats freeman and moss faced because of giuliani's conspiracy. we heard a voice mail left on ruby freeman's answering machine threatening to burn her store down. people left messages saying she should be lynched. they described how they fantasized about hearing the sound of her neck snapped. and they found her and they intimidated her in her home. shaye moss was so afraid of trump's riled up supporters that in late 2020 she changed her hairstyle from this to this so that strangers wouldn'

the question now, will shaye moss and ruby freeman ever see a dime of the 148 million plus dollars he's been ordered to pay. >>> we now know what killed actor matthew perry, after taking a large amount of ketamine. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with details. good evening. thanks for joining us. >>> we begin with the steepest plunge yet for the man whose fall from grace rivals that of anyone in modern memory. 22 years ago, this was rudy giuliani, then mayor of new york and "time" magazine's 2001 person of the year, america's mayor some called him. former crime busting u.s. attorney. looking like a man on top of it. tonight after years of working for and lying for a man he'd likely have prosecuted in his former life, he learned the price to be paid for just a fraction of those lies, namely the ones he told about shaye moss and ruby freeman. two 2020 georgia election workers he defamed again and again, including outside his civil trial earlier this week and again today after the jury awarded moss and freeman $148 million in damages. that includes more than $16 million each for defamation, $20

i hope that shaye moss and reform this or something. i know it's not about the money, but the money is important. >> also for you and your client, dominion voting, the money was not just the issue, is also about symbolically going after somebody that the famed air client. dominion voting also looking at other defendants having active litigation right now to be able to deal with the defamation to their client. do you think that it makes sense for ruby freeman and shaye moss to continue to use the judicial system in the way it's supposed to be used, which is to seek redress, get something to make them whole again after what has happened with rudy giuliani and others? >> yes, of course it's harder for individuals because these cases taken emotional toll, they take their time, and the energy of the person -- dominion has cases pending in washington against sydney powell, against rudy giuliani, they have other cases pending in various forms against oan and newsmax. dominion plans to fight all of these perpetrators of the big it makes sense f

shaye moss testified before the january 6th investigation in congress. mom was right there sitting behind her as she testified about what the threats and harassment had done to her, how they had made her regret even becoming an elections worker in the first place, that job she loved. what happened to ruby freeman and shaye moss has resulted in criminal charges against several people, including rudy giuliani in georgia. because none of what was said about those two women, which resulted in their lives being turned upside down, none of it was true. part of the reason i can say confidently that we know none of it was true is because ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation, and giuliani admitted in the course of that case that what he said was false. and therefore, a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women. and today, in federal court, a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and shaye

but ruby freeman and shaye moss did testify earlier in the trial. can you remind people what they said? because, again, these were volunteers. >> they were. well, ruby freeman was a volunteer, and shaye moss was a paid georgia election worker who took quite a lot of pride in doing that job. and that's what she told the jury. but they both took the stand over the course of this week as the jury listened to them. and not only did they speak what they did after the 2020 election and how their names have been ruined, how they fear for their lives, how they are afraid to introduce themselves to others, they also when each were on the stand, there were voice mails, chilling voice mails, racist voice mails and text messages read and played for them. and then their lawyers had them react to them. and they described how scared they were, how they went to the police, how they were advised by the fbi to flee their home, and how terrifying it was not just in the days after the 2020 election as rudy giuliani and others were saying these things about them, but in

moss. >> thank you. i appreciate your time. >>> next, the software engineer who was hired by trump to prove widespread voter fraud is now finally speaking out. he's going to tell you what he uncovered and tell you why he wants to share it now. ken block is my guest. >>> breaking news, you're looking at a live picture of a volcanic eruption in southwest iceland. lava right now. hundreds of feet in the air, imagine it. 4,000 people have been safely evacuated. but this is what's going on right now. we'll haveve more comiming up. >>> tonight, fake electors in court. six pro-trump fake electors pleading not guilty today in the state of nevada. they face felony charges for signing onto a false slate of trump electors. one of the indicted is the state republican chairman who introduced trump at his nevada rally last night. trump calling him and some of the fake electors great patriots. jessica schneider begins our coverage outfront. >> that is six votes certified. >> reporter: the six nevada republicans charged

moss' testimony came hours after giuliani inexplicably doubled down on the lies he spread about moss and her mother, ruby freeman, also an election worker. >> everything i said about them is true. >> do you regret what you did? >> of course i don't regret, i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> reporter: there is no proof of that. today the judge in the civil defamation case against giuliani rebuked the former new york mayor, saying his "negative, quite defamatory statements about the women could support another defamation claim." >> rudy giuliani should know this is not going to help his cause. it is going to deepen the hole he is in. yet he keeps digging. >> reporter: the judge has already ruled in this case that giuliani spread false information about moss and freeman in the wake of the 2020 election. giuliani has conceded he did make defamatory statements about them, but he's argued the statements didn't cause them any damage, even statements like one he made to the georgia state legislature telling them moss and freeman were corrupting the vote count. >> they

moss because this is really about them. we've heard enough. i think the jury verdict proves we've heard enough from mr. giuliani and his friends. now what this week has been about and hopefully what the future is about, is hearing the truth, hearing the truth spoken to power. ms. freeman and ms. moss are so appreciative of the jury doing their civil duty and listening to what they have been through, which was very difficult for us all to hear. you know, not to even mention of course how difficult it was for them to experience it. so, they're very appreciative. they feel that this is an important step in the path forward justice, but money doesn't make you whole when your life is turned upside down. but we do believe that it is a powerful message to those sorts of people who would seek to target civil servants in the future. >> annie, really quick is he the last of litigants you think to be held to account? >> as mr. giuliani has said all week but didn't deliver on, stay tuned, and we will deliver. >> we'll see what that delivery will bring. an

ruby freeman and her daughter moss. rudy giuliani spread vicious lies and conspiracy theories about them after the 2020 election. boy how things have changed. this is 2001. rudy giuliani once gracing the cover of "time" magazine. person of the year 2001. after then mayor rudy giuliani led new york city through the horrible attacks of 911, they called him a tower of strength. how the mighty have fallen. let's bring in michael represents both shay moss and ruby freeman, congratulations on the verdict. happy is not the right word but you may feel like some justice was delivered. >> we are thrilled. i am so happy for our clients who are the true heroes for what they have done for standing up for themselves and other election workers and willing to do that, knowing they are being attacked. knowing they will be attacked more. they have been attacked by powerful men with huge megaphones and to be able to testify under oath and to open themselves up and to prevail this message from a jury is just complete vindication for everyt

the evidence shows that he was not lying concerning moss and freeman.ine, after a stolen election he would still be keeping it close to his very large vest? it is ridiculous. as you heard at the beginning of that clip, he affirmed. it is amazing how he began the week. >> of course i don't regret. i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> joining us now is merle lovernsky. >> thank you very much for having me here tonight anderson. we are willing to follow mr. giuliani to the end of the earth, as lady ruby said, what mr. giuliani caused, these two amazing brave heros, but we will do absolutely everything we can to give them -- to track the money down and try to enforce this judgment as best we can. >> do you know at this stage i mean how much money rudy giuliani has? i know he's being sued by more than $1 million in unpaid bills, his apartment in new york is on sale for more than $6 million, that's been sitting on the market for a while now. before today's judgment he owes your clients more than $600,000 for legal fees. how do you try to

one of the attorneys the represented shaye moss and ruby freeman in their defamation case. i know you're happy about this verdict. how are you clients feeling about this truly staggering $148 million verdict against giuliani for defaming them? >> as lady ruby put it, it's a good day. it's one step on a long journey for them toward accountability and toward trying to rebuild their lives. but today was a good day for them. >> what do you make of giuliani sticking by his awful lies and comments about your two clients? >> for me, it really highlights the importance of this kind of accountability. we're quite hopeful that this verdict will make a difference there and we're going to continue to pursue that verdict. >> you know what surprised me, the verdict was, what, about $100 million more than your clients had originally asked for, right? >> the total was $148 million across the three categories of damages. some of which we had put numbers on for the jury and some of which we leave the jury to come up with numbers on their own. i think they were moved by the clients' testimony

she's the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss. i want to start by getting your reaction to the koconversation we've just had. your clients won. rudy giuliani remains unrepentant as you've heard from his representative. why don't you clarify for the american public, in addition to what i've said, what it is about giuliani that seems to say he did not have an opportunity to defend himself or that the judgment against him was somehow invalid? >> well, first of all, thanks so much for having me, laura. hopefully this conversation can go a little differently than the last one you just had. i think, you know, it seems mr. goodman is confused about what's happened over the past couple years in litigation, so i'd be happy to offer, you know, an explanation to him and anyone else wanting to understand. the way that litigation works, civil litigation works, which of course mr. giuliani, having been an attorney for, you know, half of a century, is well aware of is that the parties to a litigation engage in discovery, where they exchange rele

148 million dollar court victory over rudy giuliani, the women he defamed, ruby freeman and shaye moss, are now filing a new lawsuit against rudy. >>> but we begin tonight with the phrase, poisoning the blood of our country. if it sounds like nazi talk, it's because it is. in chapter 11 of adolf hitler's fascist manifesto he writes, all great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning. that little turn of phrase has since been parroted by other autocrats like the far right leader of hungary, viktor orban, has described muslim, middle eastern asylum seekers as a poison. this is the same guy who said he opposes immigration because it leads to, quote, mixed race europeans. now the phrase is being repeated by the leading republican candidate for president, donald trump. he had a rally, we wasn't quoting vladimir putin, praising orban, or praising insurrectionists as hostages, had this to say about immigrants. >> they let, i think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, when they do that, we have a lot of work to

shame moss, and ruby freeman. moss and freeman are the georgia election workers whose lives were forever altered after giuliani made them the crux of a nonsense voter fraud conspiracy. now, the sheer size of this penalty is, really, stunning. 16 million for defaming freemen, 16 million for defaming moss. 40 million for emotional distress to both women, and 75 million in punitive damages. moments after following the verdict, the two women thanked the jury, but said that today's result does not atone for two years of turmoil. >> the flame that giuliani lit with those lies, and passed on to so many others to keep the flame blazing changed every aspect of our lives. our homes, our families, our work, our sense of safety, our mental health. >> i want people to understand this. money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move back into the house i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go, and who i choose to share my name with. >> giuliani came out to the cameras, to, and the word of the

will ruby freeman and shaye moss see any of that money? the attorney for the two women is out front. >>> also breaking, israel killing three of its own hostages. they believe they actually managed to escape hamas. >>> we'll talk to the father of an american hostage about whether he thinks his son may also be trying to escape. >>> and arizona calling up the national guard for help at the border. we're showing you the migrant surge that they are seeing there. let's go out front. >>> good evening, i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, $148 million. that is what rudy giuliani has been ordered to pay georgia election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss after conaccusin them of rigging the 2020 election. it's a jaw-dropping number. it is the actual verdict form that breaks down into numbers. ruby freeman awarded $16.1 million for defamation, $20 million for emotional s distress. shaye moss awarded $20 million for emotional distress. and then they were awarded $75 million in punitive damages. when you add that all together, that's where you get th

you heard what shaye moss had to say today. tell me, why do you think rudy giuliani is doubling down now? >> i think he is taking a page out of trump's playbook. trump is defiant, he has been trashing the state attorney general, letitia james, after every court session. rudy is doing the same. he is given to access, that is for sure. you know, i wrote a column about him in october 9th, 2019, were i advised him to stay away from trump, tuesday away from freeman and parnas, and instead he returned to the ukraine the next day, he doubles down, as you said earlier. if you told him he made a bad hire, he would give that person a raise and a promotion. if you want him not to do something, you tell him the opposite. >> river psychology would have worked. maybe telling him go ahead and defame them, that would've made him stop? talk to me. here's what i'm asking, though. walk me through that psychology. what is it, what is at the court for him? is it that he is trying to emulate the courthouse conversation to trump, as you say, or is it

moss telling a federal court giuliani's, quote, crazy lies about her and her mother spread everywhere at the time. and led to threats against her family, "i'm most scared of my son finding me and/or my mom hanging outside my house on a tree or having to get the news at school that his mama was killed." this is hours after giuliani doubled down about the lies he had spread about moss and her mother. >> everything i said about them is true. >> do you regret what you did? >> of course i don't regret it. i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> reporter: there is no proof of that. and the judge in the civil defamation case against giuliani rebuked the former new york mayor saying his negative and quite defamatory statements about the two women could support another defamation claim. >> rudy giuliani should know that this is not going to help his cause. it is going to deepen the hole he is in. and yet he keeps digging. >> reporter: the judge already ruled that giuliani spread false information about moss and freeman in the wake of the 2020 election. giuliani has conceded t

moss and ms. freeman are heroes because of the courage that it took to defend democracy in front of than onslaught led by donald trump and seconded by rudy giuliani is nothing short of courageous. >> absolutely. and by the way, they had the courage to testify publicly when members of congress didn't have the cajones to do the same. >> that's right, and they are heroes. they deserve everything they got, but i want to bring it out a little bit more. this is so important for our overall democracy. this award, it's not just the money. it shows that if you have this kind of behavior, you will be held accountable, because what did we all worry about in 2022 and still worry about today for 2024? violence at polling booths. and these are the front line workers. we have all worked -- i'm sure you have too. i know you have. we have been poll watchers. we see what these folks do. they're there for 12, 16 hours a day. they literally are on the front lines. and they did it in a pandemic. those two women. we ha

ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation. the course of that case what he said was false, and therefore a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women and today in federal court a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and sheae moss for what he did to them. that comp scission could reach as high as $43 million. additional punitive damages could amount to -- the sky's the limit. one way to look at what happened today as the latest chapter of rudy giuliani's descent, the judge in the defamation case has already rebuked rudy giuliani for failing to show up in court last week. today he showed up to court 20 minutes late and then forgot to rebuckle his belt after he'd taken it off to go through the metal detector, and his unbuckled belt hung there at his waste for a few minutes before the trial got started. hey, howdy, counselor. check your barn door. the other way to look at this tri

without people like freeman and moss, we couldn't even have elections.s of pain, suffering, and harassment. now, i'm going to deal with the elephant in the room. part of what feel the response to both freeman and moss was textbook what nationalism. it's important to distinguish white nationalism from white supremacy, because what nationalism, as in this case, is rooted in the idea that america's prices and systems are chiefly reserved for white people. and that people like moss and freeman, who are not, what should not have access or be able to participate or to be able to enjoy the functioning of the same processes and systems. it's the same reason why trump and his attacks on u.s. state attorney general letitia james and manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and fulton county district attorney fani willis have just a little more but then some of the things he says about anybody else. and giuliani's appeals to white nationalism has now become quite costly. let's bring back david henderson and matthew dowd. david, i want to start. just give me your rea

moss's testimony came hours after giuliani inexplicably doubled down on the lies he had spread about moss and her mother, ruby freeman, who is also an election worker. >> everything i said about them is true. >> do you regret what you did? >> of course i don't regret it, i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> there is no proof of that. and the judge in the civil defamation case against giuliani rebuked the former new york mayor, saying his quote, negative, quite defamatory statements about the two women could support another defamation claim. >> rudy giuliani should know that this is not going to help his cause. it is going to deepen the hole he is in. and yet he keeps digging. >> the judge has already ruled in this case that giuliani spread false information about moss and freeman in the wake of the 2020 election. giuliani has conceded that he did make a defamatory statements about them, but he's argued that the statements didn't cause them any damage, even states like the one he made to the georgia state legislature, telling them moss and freeman were corrupting

i was really struck by one of the things shaye moss to other people. again, these two women were election workers. that was what put them in the crosshairs. here's what she had to say to other people who do that kind of work. >> as we move forward, and continue to seek justice, our greatest wishes that no one, no election worker or voter, or school board member, or anyone else, ever experiences anything like what we went through. you all matter, and you are all important. we hope no one ever has to fight so hard just to get your name back. >> what do you think the impact ends up being for that category of people? obviously, they got the worst of it in the country, i don't think there's even a question. but there were others who were also, and who have been continuously, in this era, harassed, doxxed, and the subjective lies. >> that's exactly right, chris. you may remember that press conference gabriel sterling gave on december 1st, 2020. so, before our clients were even targeted, he stood up and said to president trump, you're going to get somebody ki

just listen to this example of threatening voice mails left for ruby freeman and shaye moss. they were actually played in court today. they were emails full of obscene and racist threats. i'm going play some for you. but i'm going warn you, not only are they disturbing, they were directed at people who just community as election workers. >> you're going to jail, ruby. you're going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you're all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> hey, this is shaye. i hope you like jail, because that's where you're going, on your way to hell. >> and based on what were these taunts relayed? i mean, imagine if you picked up your phone and there was a message like that on it. and frankly, some of the other ones are so riddled with obscenities, so riddled with vicious racial slurs, we have to actually beep out most of them, making it entirely incomprehensible. today we actually heard from shaye moss herself, and she said that her worst fear, and imagine this, after being an election worker

he started claiming ruby freeman and shaye moss, he he identified publicly by name, he said they hade election from donald trump in georgia. he said video from the state from arena which was running on a loop on fox news showed them acting like drug dealers, that was the language he used, he said the tape somehow show them stealing votes. after that ruby freeman and her daughter even her teenage grandson were inundated with vulgar and racist harassment and death threats. ruby freeman called 9-1-1 multiple times because people were showing about her door and banging, showing our house and banging on her door leaving threats. one of the people who showed up was part of a team of trump allies to prosecutors, they tried illegally to course ruby freeman into falsely confessing that she had committed election fraud. ruby freeman had to leave her home for weeks for her own safety on the advice of the fbi. she mostyska five publicly in front of the january six investigation in congress, her mom was right there sitting behind her as she testified be well or what the threats and harassment had

ordering him to pay $148 million to the two former georgia elections workers ruby freeman and shaye mosso he falsely accused of wrongdoing. telling the country they passed around usb ports as if they very vials of heroin or cocaine. terry moran with the message the jury is sending tonight about the truth. >>> also, the very sad turn, we have now learned matthew perry's cause of death. the coroner releasing the autopsy tonight and what doctors are saying about what's in that report. matt gutman tonight. >>> the hob rupgs >>> the israeli military now admitting it accidentally killed three of the hostages during fierce fighting in northern gaza. how did this happen? >>> a judge sentencing the mother of the 6-year-old boy accused of shooting and wounding his first grade teacher to far more than even prosecutors had asked for. >>> tonight, the apple sauce scare, the alarming investigation by the fda into several brands of apple sauce pouches tainted with lead, some containing 500 times the healthy limit. investigators now believe the manufacturer intentionally used cheaper ingredients. more t

free sxhan moss are asking a jury for at least $48 million. their lawyers pointed to these comments from giuliani outside court this week to prove that giuliani still is not remorseful. >> of course i don't regret it. i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> hello, everyone. >> reporter: giuliani first made false statements about freeman and moss after the 2020 election, including to a georgi investigating alleged but unfounded voter fraud. >> it's a tape earlier in the day of ruby freeman and shaye freeman moss and one other gentleman. i mean, it's obvious to anyone who's a criminal investigator or prosecutor they are engaged in surreptitious illegal activity, again, that day. >> reporter: the mother and daughter detailed in hours of emotional testimony on the stand how these false allegations upended their lives. they received death threats. they've been forced into hiding. and they've been turned down for jobs. they also recounted the agony for the january 6th committee. >> i've lost my name and i've lost my reputation. i'v

the lies upended the lives of shaye moss and her mother, ruby freeman, who testified they faced racist and violent threats as a direct result of the false accusations. after today's verdict, moss telling reporters her wish is that no election worker ever experiences anything like what we went through. giuliani tonight calling the $148 million sum absurd and vowing to appeal. ken dilanian has late details. >> reporter: tonight, a jury in washington, d.c. imposing a massive penalty for election lies, ordering rudy giuliani to pay more than $148 million in damages to two former georgia election workers he falsely accused of election fraud >> today's a good day. a jury stood witness to what rudy giuliani did to me and my daughter and held him accountable, and for that, i'm thankful. >> reporter: the judge had already found giuliani liable. tonight, the jury awarding more than $33 million to shaye moss and ruby freeman for defamation, $40 million for emotional distress, and ordering giuliani to pay $75 million in punitive damages. >> the absurdity of the number merely underscores the absurd

and so unfortunately, moss and freeman will have to get in a long line with giuliani's other creditorsuding some of his lawyers. but at some point, hopefully they will receive the money that the judge has already ruled their entitled to that they deserve for the extreme pain that giuliani caused. to show you how pitiful his defense is, ana, his lawyers have the nerve to argue that because president biden awarded moss and freeman the national medal of honor based on what they've been through, giuliani's lawyers argued that what that -- what their client did actually enhanced moss and freeman and their reputation because they got that medal. that's a pathetic argument, and i think the jurors in the district of columbia are likely to let giuliani know how pathetic that argument is with the damages that they returned. >> paul butler and ryan reilly, thank you, gentlemen, ryan keep us posted if there's any rumblings of a verdict, we'll be watching intently. >>> up next on "ana cabrera reports," the new message to president biden from israel about its large scale ground invasion. but are the

they spoke on behalf of the voiceless people like ruby freeman and shaye moss. the message that has been sent is that powerful folks like rudy giuliani cannot lie like he did in this case. the message the jury sent today is that lies have a price tag. >> he -- you know, that moment when you saw the two of them speaking, they seemed to get a bit emotional, understandably at the end, after they both finished speaking to reporters. how are they doing tonight? >> like ruby said, today is a good day. but there is a lot more work to be done. i don't think they can ever be fully restored to what they were before. of course that's what they would prefer to be, what they used to be, you know, not looking over your shoulder when you go out to the grocery store, being able to give people your name when you meet them. those are small things that they now cannot do. i don't know that they'll ever get back to the point where they have those freedoms that they had before all of this. >> do they expect that they'll see any of this money, given what we've known and reported abou

and-- sorry, ruby freeman and shaye moss, he defamed them with malice. that makes it hard to escape. what happened? does the government start taking money from his bank account after the million dollars he owes in taxes has already been settled? obviously, we just saw pictures of him. he is wearing expensive suits, expensive ties, writing --riding in a limo. this is not a man outside, wearing a barrel. >> in the bankruptcy petition petition, he says, yes between 1 and $10 million worth of assets. as you mentioned, there are other signs that he may in fact have resources. what is going to happen here is that the judge will hold a hearing to confirm that the debt can't be discharged, which means, you can ask the bankruptcy judge to release you from the amount of money he owes her the election defamation claims as well as some of the others. if that is true, which it most likely is, then at some point, he will leave bankruptcy and he will have to start paying some amount of money, if he has any, to all the people who are suing him. he can't use the bankrupt

the un describing the renewed hostilities has returned to hell on earth regard since both a moss and israel blame one another for the breakdown in the troops. also coming up german chancellor, all of schultz walters and international climate club aimed at getting industry on board with di corporatization, both france and the u. s. lead calls for a booster nuclear energy production as an alternative to fossil fuel rely, the and a warm welcome to a viewers around the world. unlike loco, renewed finding in gaza. it has traction to a 2nd day after true steel between israel and a moss expired early friday. explosions lit up the night sky over the eastern part of con eunice. as international concern grew over is really plans to expand. it's offensive to the south of the strip. these really military says it has carried out some 400 strikes on terrorist targets. since finding resumed with con eunice, seeing some of the most intense bombardment since the war started. the mosse controlled health ministry in gaza says almost 200 palestinians have been killed in the renewed hostilities. the resu

their aim is to eradicate a moss full stop. do you think as an military strategist, that israel's military strategy is not going to change regardless of how densely populated it's targeted areas might be? or how much international support it might lose. this michael, it doesn't have a military strategy yet and that, that being reminded, suspended constantly by us public politician cd us politicians, not least, of course, mister blake, because it sounds like no doubt as to the president biden is on the phone too. i know said yahoo quite regularly and vice president congress yesterday many very case. it is ways you will not be conducting. you will not, we will not permit that population transfers the kinds in quite right so. so there, there is no strategy, not present math chrome today. so it's something very interesting, i think is right about the said, look, militarily speaking, if you're ready, we scale thomas physical that's going to take 10 years. this was similar to the i have of course the i outlined in 1982 when is relega

friday a jury ordered trump lawyer rudy giuliani to play election workers ruby freeman and shaye mossasis lie that they rigged the election, about 15 minutes after the jury made that decision. mr. giuliani stepped outside the courthouse, and he did it again. >> do you still believe what you said about these two women in the wake of the 2020 election was truthful? do you still believe these claims? >> i have no doubt that my comments were made, and they were support-able and our support-able today. >> today those comments by mr. giuliani were cited in part of a new lawsuit against him from ruby freeman and shaye moss, the new suit's seeks to permanently barr giuliani from persisting in his defamatory campaign against ruby freeman and shaye moss. >> joining us now is mr. gottlieb, one of the eternities for freeman and moss. >> thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> what will this lawsuit do that the first one didn't. >> the first one was a suit for damages and other forms of relief, declaratory refute. this is a suit where we are seeking a permanent injunction to prevent

moss and ms. freeman again.was the lesser of two evils i think here but either way i think we're headed toward a very large verdict against rudy giuliani, a very large damages amount against him. >> i want to talk about the difference in what the jury has to decide here in terms of the damages in just a second. first and foremost, you talked about things that rudy giuliani said outside of court. here are things that his attorney said in court. rudy giuliani is a good man. i know some of you may not think that. i'm asking you to be reasonable. and then he also asked jurors to remember giuliani's reputation from years gone by, mayor of new york city after 9/11, as a prosecutor who took down the mob. saying rudy giuliani shouldn't be defined by what's happened in recent times. this is a man who did great things. when it comes to the jury deciding the damages, does this have impact? should it have impact? >> no, kate. it's irrelevant, first of all, at best. the jury is not there passing judgment on whether rudy giul

giuliani, ordering him to pay $148 million to the two georgia elections workers, ruby freeman and shea moss, who he falsely accused of wrongdoing, telling the country they passed around usb ports as if they were vials of heroin or cocaine. >>> also, we have now learned matthew perry's cause of death, the coroner releasing the autopsy report tonight and what doctors are saying about what's in that report. >>> the horrific tragedy this evening, the israeli military admitting it accidentally killed three of the hostages during fierce fighting in northern gaza. how did this happen? >>> in new york tonight, the jij sentencing the mother of a 6-year-old boy accused of shooting and teacher to far more than prosecutors even asked for. >>> and the investigation by the fda into several brands of apple sauce pouches tainted with lead. it's believed the manufacturer used cheaper ingredients, more than 122 children sickened in several states. >>> in new york city, what knocked out the power across much of the city, people trapped in elevators, the smoke seen rising from a authorities racing to the scene

moss and freeman. they are the georgia election workers whose lives were forever altered after giuliani made them the crux of a fraud conspiracy. the sheer size of this penalty is really stunning. $16 million for defaming freeman. $16 million for defaming moss, $40 million for distress to both and $75 million in punitive damages. the two woman thanked the jury but today's result does not a tone for two years of turmoil. >> the flame that giuliani lit with those lies and passed to so many others to keep that flame blazing changed every aspect of our lives. our homes, our family, our work, our sense of safety, our mental health. >> i want people to understand this. money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i choose to share my name with. >> giuliani came out to the cameras, too. and the word of the day was absurd. >> the absurdity of the number merely underscores the absurdity of the entire

one of the attorneys for shea moss and ruby friedman joins me live to discuss their epic victory and what is next. >>> baseball's 700 million dollar man, shohei ohtani's stunning contract with the l.a. dodgers and how his structured payout is poised to change the game. we will go inside the biggest deal in sports history. all of that and more is coming up. >>> a good sunday morning to you all. i am katie phang. we begin today's show with the latest in the new york attorney generals 250 million dollar civil fraud trial, ju o of the cases in donald trump's expensive portfolio of legal troubles. on wednesday, we saw the last day of testimony in the trial with closing arguments from both sides now scheduled for january 11th. attorney general letitia james has accused trump of inflating his wealth on financial statements used to secure loans and made deals. in a partial summary judgment decision back in september, judge arthur engoron ruled that donald trump, his core business is, and his adult sons who run them were all liable for fraudulent asset valuation. while awaiting closing argume

giuliani recited as part of a new lawsuit against him from ruby freeman and shaye moss. it seeks to permanently bar mr. giuliani from persisting in his defamatory campaign against ruby freeman and shaye moss. michael gottlieb is one of the attorneys representing them. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me on, rachel. >> what would this new lawsuit do that the first one didn't? >> so, the first suit was a suit for both damages and some other forms of relief like declaratory relief. this is a suit in which we are seeking a permanent injunction to prevent mr. giuliani from saying the same false statements about our clients that he has been making since december of 2020 and which he had a full opportunity to prove to be true if he chose so. he opted out. he defaulted and so after a finding by a jury awarding him damages we don't believe he should be able to continue telling the same lies out on the street that he has been unable to defend and prove in court. >> the massive damages that your clients obtained was not enough to stop him. how would a permanent injunction

shaye moss and ruby freeman are we know very strong and very compelling witnesses. i think there's every reason to believe that the jury is going to lean in their direction in a significant, monumental way. >> giuliani's lawyers say he doesn't have deep pockets. how do you read that? >> well, what they're trying to say is, to discourage the jury from awarding a very high amount on the theory that he wouldn't be able to pay it anyway. i suspect that's not going to be so persuasive. there have been other circumstances in other cases that mr. giuliani has been involved with where he's hosted fund-raisers, had third parties pay off some of his debt. he has found ways in other contests to be able to pay. now, if they come back with tens of millions of dollars, then that certainly will be challenging for him to have to pay. but there's a wide range of what in terms of dollar amounts, of what this jury might come back with, both in terms of trying to compensated the plaintiffs for the actual reputational harm that they suffered as well as in terms of punitive damages to pu

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