reagan presidency scholarships a strain runs a disturbing the antinuclear reagan rather than seeing that reaganever liked war or nuclear destruction. he was a committed cold warrior so that there would be no world war iii or nuclear destruction. he held these points of principles simultaneously. yet, critics regard to reagan as a warmonger. and dive instructor at theli library this week at how dominant this criticism of reagan was att the time. it's all over the place in the files. and sometimes these are the same commentators who see a reagan one and reagan two rather than analyzing reagan as a whole person who wassa president prettily applied the same fundamental principles in the best of circumstances he faced. and seeing that the subsequent actions of america and of the states winning to his assessment and that he was capable of looking at short, middle and long ranges. he was able to keep his end in mind. so the big question then, what was that end? in the peacemaker, wilson bowden analyzes reagan's pursuit of success in bringing the soviet union to a negotiated surrender. he responds to a

reagan the new messiah. richard pipes said the london infuriated the russians more. anything else reagan had said. pipes added that reagan's response to him when he told that was so we touched a nerve. reagan wanted to touch a nerve to get their attention. he combine that with an arms buildup that as i have argued previously was not designed to prepare for war, but was designed to create a strong negotiating position. so that he could get real arms reduction. his objection, the previous arms control agreements had been that they had been limitation and not arms reduction. reagan said in his autobiography, i wanted to go to the negotiating table, end the madness of the mad policy. but to do that, i knew america first had to upgrade its military capabilities so that we would able to negotiate with the soviets from a position of strength, not weakness. third, reagan's supported arms control and ultimately elimination of nuclear weapons. and he said this many, many times in public. but did. i remember at the time not that he made it thinking. it was entirely tactical. but we now know it was. not tactical. it was a very firm be

reagan capable of possessing or expressing a spiritual anthropology. in reagan presidency scholarship, the discovering of theha antinuclear reagan rather than seeing that reagan never liked a war or nuclear destruction. he was a committed cold warriors so that there would be no world war iii or nuclear destruction. he held these points of principles simultaneously, yet critics regarded him as a warmonger. and i've been struck here at the library this week of the dominant criticism at the time all over the place in the files. sometimes these are the same commentators s who see reagan oe and reagan to rather than analyzing reagan as a whole person who prudently applied to the same fundamental principles and the circumstances he faced and seeing the subsequent actions of america and other states went into his assessments and that he was capable of looking at a short, middle and long ranges. he was able to keep his end in mind. so, the big question then what was that and? in the peacemaker, he analyzes the pursuit of and the success of bringing this soviet union to a r surrender. he responds to and builds on the question about whether reagan named to win o

my questions how did reagan get to 1983, especially march 1983? what made reagan reagan? and what did he bring to the white house with him? what was the end? his cold war strategy of peace through strength expressed, pursued as president, especially in two central speeches. at a moment, reagan both saw and helped to make. did he stay the course, so to speak? what, if anything, can we learn from this strategy for today and some these questions obviously will have to be for discussion here. and i hope throughout the conference. in a year that was in retrospect a key inflection point in the cold war march 83 marked a critical month for reagan. the strategic initiative, sdi is often dismissed as technologically or it is presented as either an aspiration or idiosyncratic element of defense buildup or a bargaining chip that he stubbornly to use in later cold war summitry. such interpretations devalue and ignore reagan's own that informs his visionary project. this thinking is best understood, especially in the proximate. by examining reagan's announcement of sdi in, his march 23

reagan's report rhetoric to allow his presidency. the first one was to, in reagan's view speak of truth about the soviet union and we know that reagan made any number of harsh comments and as i demonstrate later in the paper, these harsh comments on occasion continued after 1984 and even the straight january 16th speech included harsh criticism. i wish i had the time to make the argument in detail, but the ivan and anya passage one of the most eloquent of reagan that jim and sally could travel where they want and ivan and anya could not. and telling the truth. and reagan came into office, inthere were mistakes in our policy and i wanted to do something differently like speaking the truth about them for a change, peter robinson, the great speech writer argued that reagan's insistence on telling the truth produced a trumpet-like quality to his speeches and i think that's especially evident in the great-great soviet speeches. and one goal of this was to get the soviet's attention. we know that he was successful in doing that. after the westminster speech, they labeled reagan the new messiah. richard pipe said the london speech infuriate

what young people who didn't live through the reagan presidency, what doo they need o know about ronald reagan? >> ronald reagans the third greatest president. washington, lincoln, reagan. i will tell you why -- [applause] >> and i will tell you why. some of you are too young and i'm not old. some are too young to remember but the economy was cratering, i mean, cratering, we had inflation at 21%. imagine that. we had massive unemployment. it reached like 12%. we had, there was no growth occurring in the country. we had this horrific recession with inflation, we hadn't had it before. people had lost hope in the country and the media was -- another guy with fundamental transform thation. reagan had to build the united states economy and take on the soviet union which was on the move in our hemisphere in central america, in europe, in africa because they saw weakness, they saw carter. carter brought in the iranian dictatorship. you had the communists on the move in nicaragua and in cuba, in other parts. >> afghanistan. >> afghanistan and then comesn. reagan. when reagan left office, the the soviet union was basica

the place where lincoln guided us, the civil war, where fdr led us through world war ii and reagan reagan's. reagan us to victory in the cold war. so it should be a place of excellence, a place where the smartest and hardest working americans fight and struggle every day to make life better for each and every one of us. yeah, and it should be a place of service, a where everyone understands that the best interests of the american people always come first. and it should be a place of patriotism, a place where everyone is proud to be an american and confident that our system is worth fighting for. these, and for at least 12 more months, it's become a place to ridicule american history and frankly, to ridicule americans themselves. but next year is an election year, and then our voices be heard and they will be heard. and that's the angle. >> former trump senior adviser and america first legal founder steve miller joins us now. steven, when people were shocked about this kind of take on the nutcracker and, you know, it's kind of interesting display at the white house. i kind of yawned. >> this is this

reagan. reagan, right. in fact, he did not have a good track record in dealing with the aids crisis. that was your first experience of dealing with a president. how do you manage to get the best possible out of them? yeah. how did you work with them to get what you needed? that's a great question. and it relates to a principle that i've lived by, starting with president reagano brief president reagan, and i was talking to my friend, who i consider — he's about 15 years older than i — as a mentor. and he said, "you know, one of the things "you should remember, whenever you go into the white house "and go under that awning of the west wing "to go in to see the president, "you should whisper in your own ear," �*this may be the last time that i'm going "�*to be walking into this building,�* "because you may have to tell the president "an inconvenient truth that they don't like to hear, "which means you may not get asked back again. "so if you're ok with not getting asked back again, "you're going to do fine, "because they're either going to respect you "or they're going to shoot the messenger." and i've lived by that with every single president where i had to be very honest with them, very respectful, but never be afraid to tell them the cold, honest truth. and i did that with reagan. and i did that with george hw bush. and i did that with clinton, and george w

you write so well for reagan, he said because i went and read reagan. >> if you ever -- you should look at the westminster address and look at the dolan draft and then look what reagan does to it. and there are places where reagan will mark out four paragraphs and a partial sentence, he'll link it to another sentence eight or nine paragraphs later and doggone it, if it doesn't read better and cut out things that unnecessarily offended people for no reason and read some of the things he wrote and passages that i've mentioned, it's just magic. henry. >> one point-- (inaudible). . >> i thought i was following your argument in your book about reagan, henry. >> you say that he was committed -- i love the section about leverage. >> right. >> and his capability and -- i guess i'm-- with perspective. you said arms control and abolition. and he was still realistic to understand after you got rid of weapons, nuclear weapons, you still have to face a world you have to respond. what would you use to deter into that picture comes this whole concept that he had in his head, but aren't you -- in other words, it seems to me he's kind of saying that if you got rid of the weapons, yo

reagan presidency? what did they need to know about ronald reagan and how should they go deeper? i count ronald reagan is the third greatest president in american history. washington reagan. and i'll tell you why. and will tell you why. some you are too young and i'm not old. some you are too young to remember this. but the economy was cratering. i mean, cratering. we had inflation at 21%. now, imagine that we had massive unemployment, it reached like 12%. we had there was no occurring in the country. we had this horrific recession with inflation, hadn't had it before. we weren't sure to do about it. people had lost hope in this country and the world food lines. and they were homeless. and the media was sure to show it. it. this was carter, another guy who believed in transformation. reagan had to up the united states economy and take on the soviet union, which was on the move in our hemisphere in central america, in europe, in africa, because they saw weakness. it saw carter. carter brought in the iranian dictatorship that exists today. they chased off the shah of iran. you had the communists. the mo

reagan. ronald reagan ushered in the celebrity presidency, ronald reagan in the era of deregulation and the growth of cable tv in the '80s, that's got to be because of ronald reagan, right? that was my assumption going into it. and my research actually shows that reagan capitalized on these changing cultural values, these changing ways in which campaigns operated in the 1960s, going to the primary trail, appealing to people as fans. this ultimately created a political and cultural system in which he could say that he represented the people, that his performance, his ability to perform, was part of his qualifications. and so, he make that argument when he runs for governor in 1966, he calls himself the citizen politician. that because he was an actor, he understood the people better, and that's why you should win the election. at the time, his acting background was still controversial, but the really fascinating thing is that nixon helps make it not controversial. he is studying reagan and there are boxes and boxes at the nixon library that are just labeled reagan research, where nixon is studying

you encourages him the same with the ayatollahs in iran weakness i think an tag nicees going to reagan reagangh strength deter adversaries, weakness furthers malign behavior rush china irain you name it failed policy to exhibit weakness. >> congressman whiefl you a national intelligence assessment finding that china ramps up efforts to influence american points during 2022ing elections, whether or not intel are preparing properly. maria: is china getting ready to interfere in 2024? >> very clearly they are but the report tells you what you outlined there the intelligence community has to grudgingly walk back erroneous assessment, that in 2020, china was sitting on sidelines, look. i was very vocal that we had collected specific intelligence of a specific plan or campaign, are by china to, interfere in 2020 for the specific purpose of helping joe biden become president and harming -- president biden to become president to harm president trump in reelection efforts. and what this report acknowledges is that that is exactly what happened. >> your reaction? >> jackie we see that china continues t

reagan. going to republican confections. people harking back to the reagan days. 0bviously ronald reagan was close obviously ronald reagan was hope — obama that is in red and blue and says hope i— obama that is in red and blue and says hope. i have one of margaret thatcher— says hope. i have one of margaret thatcher in — says hope. i have one of margaret thatcher in red and blue and it's his iron in — thatcher in red and blue and it's his iron in is _ thatcher in red and blue and it's his iron in is one of my favourite teachers — his iron in is one of my favourite teachers i — his iron in is one of my favourite teachers i have gotten in london. that is— teachers i have gotten in london. that is all— teachers i have gotten in london. that is all we have time for here on the context so let me think our panel. brian taylor, columnist at the herald of scotland. doug heye, republican strategist. thank you to both forjoining us here on the context. more on all of our news on the bbc news website including the latest on the war on gaza you can go to our life page on there which has more details of the latest developments. you have

of or a similar moment from ronald reagan, if you think of great moments of ronald reagan which i know if you can remember you've probably seen clips of ronald reaganhat comes to mind. hair tear down this wall. 1987. if you read that chapter you know not all his advisers wanted him to say that maybe you don't want to say y that mister president but that was a rake and moment and that's one of the things he's known for for thatpowerful rhetoric . it's an important moment he had and in 1984 at the d-day memorial he gives a powerful address that brought a lot of people to tears. also when the challenger exploded in 1986 and the astronauts died, we watched it live ontelevision he gave a powerful address after that . reagan write his own speeches, some presidents are active in writing their own speeches, kennedy, obama but he had a team of speechwriters that knew the things he wanted to say and when you look at his best speeches that comes out. one of his best has written about this but to be the kind of wordsmith she was came from our ability to understand the president for whom she was writing so when we talk about the strategy, did a lot of people be

reagan. i'm from california. my first political rally was 1976. i was with reagan and my dad was with reagan 76. six. cpac and 68 and i'm chairman of the nixon library so reagan ran and 60. when we had a staff meeting and stephen hadley gave me great advice on how to run nfc when i came at appreciate that when the first people away too. henry and connie and stephen did a lot of good advice. i would say peace through strength works. it's not just a clichÉ and american is provocative. as far as senior directors they got bored and i think they thought it was -- it was real. if we don't get a submarine fleet maintained and out in the field, out deployed, if we don't start exercising a message upon which are talked about, bill, and you're write it's a as important today as was two years ago, if we don't start acting, we can talk all the while, talk about democracy and the rules-based international order and buy the wit of never known anyone who wants to fight and die for rules-based special order. might want to fight and die for american free world but until the free world gets its act together and show st

reagan policies ? the reagan policies? >> reagan no, i thought reagan was one of the greatest.lk to barack obama, this and that. >> i mean, it was as a result of his his policies , you had more his his policies, you had more rich people and more poor people. no no, there's nothing wrong with rich people. >> no, they they make money. they hire people. they have companies. people work for them. you know , a successful business, you know, a successful business, a successful person hires a lot of people and they pay a lot of taxes, and the list goes on and on.and taxes, and the list goes on and on. and on. >> i was just talking about the fact that middle class tends to have disappeared. >> we need a strong middle class. >> yes, we need a strong middle class. >> and you have and we're losing the middle class. you have by design. why in the united states right week lit alley, right now this week lit alley, millions of people are coming into our country illegally . many into our country illegally. many millions of people . i would say millions of people. i would say it's going to be b

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reagan policies ? the reagan policies? >> reagan? no. i thought reagan was one of the greatest.alk to barack obama this . this and that. >> um, i mean, it was as a result of his his policies that you had more rich people and more poor people. no uh, no, there's nothing wrong with rich people. >> no , they they make money, >> no, they they make money, they hire people. they have companies . people work for them . companies. people work for them. you know, a successful business, a successful person hires a lot of people, and they pay a lot of taxes. and the list goes on and on and on. i was just talking about the fact that middle class tends to have disappeared. we need a strong middle class. yes, tends to have disappeared. we neeneedtrong middle class. yes, tends to have disappeared. we neeneed a)ng middle class. yes, tends to have disappeared. we nee need a strongjdle class. yes, tends to have disappeared. we neeneed a strong middle ss. yes, tends to have disappeared. we neeneed a strong middle class. ., we need a strong middle class. and have. and we're losing and you have. and

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cnn's republican primary debate at the reagan library in 2015, i reached out to a number of top officials in the reagan administration. it was a debate at the reaganhat's how i got this story about how reagan reacted to the news and the journal nature in 1985 that scientists had discovered a hole in the o zone layer above antarctica allowing higher levels of cancerous radiation to reach earth. >> ronald reagan's secretary of state george schulze reminds us that when reagan was president he faced a similar situation to the one we're facing now, was there mass consensus about the o zone layer shrinking. schulze said ronald reagan urged skeptics to come up with a plan, he said come up with a policy if case scientists are right. reagan and his approach worked. secretary schulze said why not take out an insurance policy and approach climate change the reagan way? >> needless to say that the candidates at that time were dismissive of climate change and the need for action and quite unlike reagan who george schulze and others in his cabinet supported the international treaty to phase out chemicals such as chlorofluorocarbons and depleting the o zone laye

reagan. there's no question that ronald reagan was very significantly influenced by milton friedman in his policies and program. he ran on the economy for bill clinton put forward it's the economy stupid, ronald reaganas asking what do you think about inflation and about unemployment. inflation was the issue of the day. the united states had not experienced double digit inflation in peacetime may be ever virtually as far as very shortly during the control of prices after world war ii, but they have in a general peacetime economy double digit inflation and a declining economic growth, the era of oil embargo, the loss of the war in vietnam. these were troubled times for the united states and i think many people felt that america's greatest days were behind. effective there was inevitably going to be a larger role for government and society that economic growth would diminish and freed men from an intellectual perspective and reagan from a political perspective tried to trumpet a different direction and that was where free to choose comes in. >> host: what were milton and rose friedman advocating and free to choose? >> guest: essentially, they were advocating a rollback of the role of government that e

however, we've got bill hemmer going to join us live from the reagan library and the reagan national defense forum going on in the reagan library out there in simi valley, california. plus, plus, plus, plus, hamas broke the ceasefire. that's one point. and why are the biden's trying to keep the idf from attacking southern gaza and annihilating hamas? the bidens are trying to twist the arms of the idf. this is pure insanity, and we will have aaron cohen talk about it. all that when kudlow returns. ♪ hello! hello is friendly... hello is open... it's welcoming... everything we want to be when helping people find a medicare plan during the annual enrollment period. so, say hello... to hellomedicare, a one-stop shop for medicare plans, including a range of “all-in-one” medicare advantage plans... from the names you know. learn, compare, even enroll—all in one place. no matter where you are in your search—whether you're just starting out, or already have a good idea of what you want— give us a call. our hellomedicare licensed insurance agents are here to make things easy and help guide you to a plan that fits your needs. beca

reagan. using reagan as a convincing argument. i must have missed the part when ukraine was a member of nato. >> yeah, and this from the party that as i distinctly remember was pro-gorbachev, pro-soviet for decades. they criticized reaganis just a joke. it's all a joke. listen, you have democrat senators saying that our southern border is just a domestic political consideration. think about that. a domestic political consideration as if the drugs coming across the border, laura, aren't killing people many in this country by the tens of thousands. as if the human trafficking and sex trafficking isn't totally out of control. it's outrageous. our security is threatened right now on our border. they would much rather spend money on ukraine's border than our own. i say again it's exactly backwards. it's insane. >> laura: have you ever heard senator schumer as exercised about america's security in our southern border? as he is about ukraine or frankly mitch mcconnell your colleague? i have never heard them in any way as passionate as they are about ukraine about the united states. >> no to both. absolutely not. and, listen, one of the reasons we are in the predicament we are in now republican leadership has been happy to go

, ronald reagan, setting it all in motion and giving the conservative the edge, the edge that has caused them to drive forward. but reagan this philosophy that i wrote a book about reagan awhile back and i interviewed james baker, his chief of staff and then secretary of state. i was sitting in bakers office in houston and, baker is quite a [indiscernible] he said, he said, hey, he would tell stories where he would mimic voices and all of this other stuff. the one thing that i came away from there, recalling, if reagan told me once, he told me 10,000 times i would rather get 80% of what i want than go over the cliff with my flag flying. so, reagan understood that the point of getting elected to government is to govern. not to prove a point, not to make a statement, not to build up your party. but to make progress toward a solution. you never get all of what you want. take 80% today and come back tomorrow and try for the rest. it requires your willingness to accept that the other side has a right to its voice, has a right to its vote. another time when the system worked well under difficult circumstances was during the 1830s and 1840s. this was a time of crisis regardin

reagan in 1980. reagan: with god's help, we can and will resolve - the problems which now confront us. and, after all, why shouldn't we believe that? we are americans. applause. god bless you, and thank you. at which there was a big pushback against what the �*70s had been doing, particularly in the expansion of — of women's rights. so, �*70s quite expansionist. you could have your own credit card. chuckles. stuff like that. and then, you get this pushback, and that was when they started activating the evangelical religious right as a political force. significant also is the fact that i had studied 17th century american puritanism as a graduate student in the early �*60s, and i get to say bad things about those people because they are my ancestors. so, the family... literally. literally, yes, literally, they were puritan new englanders. but it's interesting that you witness what's happening in germany, ronald reagantotalitarian american regime but then, you reach back. well, these regimes are never made out of whole cloth. they're always based on something that was there before. they change the outfits, the names, the flags and the slogans, but it's — it's the same, um, infrastructure. so, what would the americans have? they'd go back to the puritans. that's my — that is certainly my theory. it was my theory in the 1980s and you can see it in action 110w. that's what they want. it's what the right wing wants. it wants a hierarchical puritan theocracy. which is why the handmaid's tale has taken on new resonance and relevance in recent years, but also... i didn't do it. chuckles. but it has also, of course, taken on new life in the form of a television series, so a whole new generation of viewers now. what was the biggest challenge for you in seeing that adapted for the screen? ok, you think i have any control or power, don't you? chuckles. maybe a bit. no, i don't. i have maybe some influence. yea

reagan, ronald reagan's former attorney attorney general edward meese and constitutional scholars file ifed a brief with the supreme court saying jack smith's office is unconstitutional and illegal, that the supreme court should get prison of -- rid of it because only congress alone has the power to appoint jack smith, but congress never did that. it must be if established by law, his office. congress never passed a law establishing the office of special counsel jack smith, francey. >> you know, liz, this is a really interesting issue. edward: wynn meese wrote this -- edwin meese wrote this brief, and they're saying that the department of justice should prosecute president trump, but congress has to appoint ap independent counsel, that there really is no third way. and what the department of justice has done here and as they did with robert mueller before for the president trump special counsel investigation is out of bounds, is what they're saying. now, the supreme court didn't reach that. they certainly didn't weigh in on that. but it'll be interesting to see whether that is an appellate ground that president trump will take up in the inevitable appeals in these cases. elizabeth: you know, what francey just said. people keep saying trump is upending the legal system. we understand what happened on january 6th. it should never happen again. we get the arguments there. the president has been fighting against the narrative on that. he said go protest peacefully, others say he was, you know, he didn't do enough to stop the capitol riots. we get that argument. but it's really when you see closely what's going on, gene, the democrats are really twisting and turning and manipulating the judicial system. you know, ed meese's argument also is that smith's office, jack smith's office is illegal, he has no authority to represent the u.s. on the level of u.s. attorney because his appointment by a.g. garland violates the constitution's appointments clause. he was not nominated by the president p he was not confirmed by the u.s. senate. but he now has the power of a u.s. attorney. this just feels like, again, the democrats, the biden white house is buffaloing and bullying through. >> it's exactly what it is. and one of the key things that i think is really interesting and the viewers at home should look up on their own time is a.g. holder was recently interviewed about the consequences of what would happen if donald trump was with elected. and if you listen to the things that he describes, the throwing political opponents in jail and all these other issues, it's precisely what they are doing themselves right now. and so this is a targeted, weaponizedded use of the department of justice. it's not if right. it's illegal. and it needs to end. the american people do not support this. elizabeth: you know, francey with, you go back to when trump was first elected, right in within five or six months, democrats said they wanted to impeach him without any crimes or gheen -- misdemeanors, right in they did the trump-mueller probe. the mueller probe found no russia collusion with president trump's team to hack nancy or hillary clinton e-mails. it didn't happen. so then you had nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and other democrats like adam a schiff basically step in -- adam schiff basically step in when senators chuck grassley and ron johnson put out a report about hunter biden saying, you know, this guy is exposing himself to criminal extortion overseas, with his overseas deal. they put out a lie that that was russian disinformation. so you see what's going on? when you put it all together, prancey, it's a long -- francey, it's a long timeline of a narrative of what they've been doing behind the scenes to really what trump says is rig the season. let's watch fulton county d.a. a fani willis here on her case against trump. watch this. >> when when i get asked that i'm can covering the story, many people say will the former president see prison time? what do you think? >> i think everyone in society is the same, and i don't know why that's such a difficult concept for people. you can look at the charges, and based on those charges we'll be recommending appropriate sentences. no one gets a special break because of their status. elizabeth: you know or, they're acting -- the media -- [laughter] they're acting like, you know, their statements, you know, what hair thoughts are, what they want done is about the tantamount to a conviction, francey, for trump. >> you know, liz, this is a corrupt and dangerous series of events that really started before president trump even took office. if you remember, there was talk about what would happen if he wasn't inaugust rated, could they -- inaugurated, could they somehow put hillary clinton in office. the democrats have been after him since the day he was elected, and i don't think we'rp until the american public makes them. elizabeth: thank you so much. good to see you. let's well only to the show hugo girden, you're such a smart columnist, we love what you put out. we're not going either way, we're just watching 30,000-foot perspective, trying to see what's going on, what is happening to the former president. now you have this new biden campaign push that they're going to revive attacks op trump as a danger to democracy. show this new times -- new york times story. last year "the new york times" reported they believe president trump is a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, and since then 911 charges, multi-- 91 charges, multiple indictments of trump. what do you think, hugo? >> yeah, look, it's absolutely the case that these -- there are so many charges that have been brought against him, some are more obviously politically motivated than others. but the fact of there's sort of an avenue ranch of charges is -- avalanche of charges is making people at least think that they are politically motivated, it has actually helped trump in the primary. now, one of the extraordinary things, there seem to be two -- [audio difficulty] by the democrats. they both want to -- they like the idea of -- awed a awed. [audio difficulty] -- [audio difficulty] , but they also want to -- [inaudible] so so it's a pretty strange sort of situation where the other candidates -- i think, are very -- [audio difficulty] ever since being dragged through the courts. he's now -- [audio difficulty] and nikki haley is a approaching him pretty closely. and it's -- [inaudible] if she were to -- that would really -- elizabeth: you know, we have a new gallup survey found that president biden's year-end approval if rating is the worst of modern day presidents seeking re-election. at this point in the election cycle. i mean, you know, biden under his term, the typical family has to spend $11,400 more a year. and now you've got this news, more news, the cook political report shifted and moved michigan and nevada toward the gop a amid biden's weak polling. i mean, biden won a majority of -- he won those that states, i think, back in 2020. but, you know, president biden is not performing any better either in job approval or in the head-to-head matchups with trump. his polls are going toward the basement. we've never seep them the escalate so -- seen them escalate so rapidly to the downside for a u.s. president in modern history. >> yeah, he has -- biden -- absolutely appalling numbers. [no audio] just 34% approval, approval/disapproval. [audio difficulty] what were thought to be finish states into, you know, possible -- [audio difficulty] so back in the 2020 election, biden won 7 million more and -- [inaudible] elizabeth: yeah, got it. >> [audio difficulty] >> elizabeth: okay. got it. hugo, thank you so much. we appreciate you. come back soon. we're so sorry for the technical difficulties there. we'll have better sound coming up. >>> tonight, congressman darrell issa, lieutenant colonel bob ma guinea and laugher tengler investment ceo nancy tengler. senator rand paul's new report details a shocking $900 billion in government waste. that's bigger than the gdp of poland. and another top democrat strategist, he's joining in with david axlerod saying, yeah, america is in a lot of pape under president biden. and -- pain if under president biden. and we've got the latest in the house impeachment inquiry, biden's secret e-mails. and former president trump hammers president biden on iran. and we have former acting i.c.e. director tom homan. news coming in on fbi probes into new u.s. terror threats. expect white house press secretary claims biden's border crisis is, quote, not unusual. all of this next on "the evening edit." >> and we're at a time of the year where we're seeing more at the border. and it's not unusual. ♪ ♪ trading at schwab is now powered by ameritrade, unlocking the power of thinkorswim, the award-winning trading platforms. bring your trades into focus on thinkorswim desktop with robust charting and analysis tools, including over 400 technical studies. tailor the platforms to your unique needs with nearly endless customization. and track market trends with up-to-the-minute news and insights. trade brilliantly with schwab. 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"the hill" is reporting gop senators are now criticizing the biden white house for purposely slow-walking and then tanking border security talks. republican senators, "the hill" says, suspect the white house did not want president biden to agree to a deal. fox news' rich edson standing by live from the white house with the latest. good to see you. >> reporter: hey, good evening, liz. some republicans are now urging president biden to negotiate directly with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell on border issue. the two have cut deals on other issues before. senator john cornyn, republican out of texas, says negotiations with dhs sec al hand sow mayorkas are counterproductive and any border will not -- deal will not be with mayorkas. only potus, the president, can commit to any border deal. anything else is a waste of time. the white house says president biden is dispatching mayorkas and secretary of state antony blinken to be meet soon with mexican president lopez on rah door to address this massoff surge. the press secretary maintains the president's done everything he can on his e own to handle the surge is. house speaker mike if johnson's office say, quote, the white house's insistence that the president has done everything he can on his e own to secure the border is an insult to the american people. in fact, it's been this administration's policies that president biden can reverse that have led to the historic crisis we are seeing on a daily basis. johnson wrote the president to urge his administration to stop mass parolees into the country, expedite removals, reinstate the policy where migrants need to await asylum claims in mexico and new border wall construction. democrats and republicans in congress are negotiating a deal that would also provide funding for ukraine and israel. if his? if. elizabeth: rich edison, thank you so much. always great journalism. merry cast to -- christmas to you. let's bring in former i.c.e. director tom homan. breaking news, cbs is now reporting former president trump is asking his allies about the possibility of nikki haley as his running mate, as his vice president. nikki haley, she's been strong about border security. what do you think? i mean, there's more than 101 million illegal aliens crossing under biden -- 10 million -- that's the size of michigan. what do you think of nikki haley as trump's vice president? >> look, you know, nikki haley's strong on the border, absolutely. most of what she says out there in the field is repeating what the trump administration did, so she's strong on the border. no one's stronger than the president trump, and he proved that during his administration. he has unprecedented success, so nikki haley as vice president, i wouldn't shy away from that, no. elizabeth: tom, this story's coming in too, a abc is reporting the fbi is now running down more than 1800 reports of terror threats inside the u.s. the fbi has now more than 100 investigate investigations. house speaker mike johnson says the president can takingstive action with the -- executive action with the stroke of his pen to fix it. he ended trump's policies like remain in mexico and the border wall. >> you know, i don't get it because it is -- for two years i've been saying this is the biggest national security failure i've seep since 9/11. liz, we've got #. 8 million known gotaways who chose to pay more to get away, 1.8 million. who are they? where do they come from? what did they come to this country for? if why did they not pay less to turn themselves in, get released, get flown to the city of their choice on the taxpayer dime, get work authorization while they pled if their case? who would not take advantage of that giveaway program at a cheaper rate? 1.8 million paid more to get away. many of these are from countries with sponsored terror. if they've rested that many, how many of the 11.8 came -- 1.8 came from one of those countries? elizabeth: you know, it's interesting, the critics are saying the president negotiating with iran, negotiates with venezuela but won't negotiate with senators about border security? listen the chicago voter, chicago minority voters who are really upset e other biden's border crisis. watch this. >> -- immigrant, illegal. send 'em all back. across the rio grande and don't obey our immigration and naturalization laws. to see another group come over here, it's disgraceful. it is un-american. and these rules that you have, the rule -- who made these rules? what about the black children in the ghettos? we've got to make a future for them. [inaudible] i'm strictly advocating for back people. call i.c.e. on them. trump, come in here. clean this mess up. the most corrupt city in the united states is the city of chicago. elizabeth: whoa. what do you think, tom? >> well, look, i've actually had three different pastors from chicago contact me and say that they feel the black community's been put in the backseat because we're giving free lodging, free food, free medical to the aliens, but they feel they've been left out in the cold, and they have. so three separate pastors contacted me and asked me to contact the trump campaign and see if president trump will go to chicago and have a rally with those folks. they promise they'll bring thousands from the black community out to protest what's going on and, look, i think it's a great idea. i think they're exactly right. the residents of chicago have been left in the dark. and, look, we've got homeless vets in chicago. they don't have a free hotel room, they don't get three squares a day. so exactly right. under this administration, it's america last. elizabeth: yeah. and also this, tom, i want your reaction to former president bill clinton and barack obama on illegal immigration. they were tough about it. they were saying follow the law. they were standing up, these democrat presidents, for border security. this, when you hear what they say, you're going to see how far to the left and off the rails this biden white house has gone. watch this. >> all americans not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. the jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. the public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. that's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more. >> but today our immigration system is broken. and everybody knows it. families who enter our country the right way and play by the rules watch others flout the rules. business owners who offer their workers good wages and benefits see the competition exploit undocumented immigrants by paying them far less. awe all of us take offense to anyone if who reaps the rewards of living in america without taking on the responsibilities of living in america. elizabeth: did you hear that? but they would be, you know, labeled by the far left as a extremists. this biden white house has gone off the rails. this is not normal. we're living in abnormal times under this biden white house. >> you know, this upsets me the most, i say this all the time, i worked for six presidents starting with ronald reaganworked for presidents obama and clinton as a career special agent. every president i worked for understood you can't have national security without border security. you need to know who and what's coming in. no one did more than president trump, what he did was up precedented. but joe biden is the first president in the history of this nation who came in office and unsecured the border. if he unsecured the border. what commander in chief does that? so, yeah, we are way off to the left. we fell off the a table. i knew they'd move to the left, but i never thought they'd do what they're doing and just ignoring the crisis on the southern border. again, i don't care what people 's opinions on immigration, we have a big national security failure right now, and it scares the hell out of me. elizabeth: but why is it happening? biden in 2006 voted for the secure fence act for more border security. what happened? is he appeasing one wing of his party, one part of his base in order to secure thei

reagan did a great job integrating both courts with minorities and women and none of those appointees were women, and when reagan was looking for his nominee, he couldn't look to the federal bench and he had to cast a wider net and found sandra day o'conner who was in arizona. she had been a standout student at stanford law school and could not find a job upon graduating and she was given an offer to be a legal secretary, and she raised her children and was active in the goldwater campaign, and that's when she began to make the political connections and that brought her to the attention of reaganwere so different in so many ways, how reagan went about finding her and deciding it would be her. and then, michael, the confirmation for her, 99-0, to quote dylan, was in another lifetime so it seems. >> yeah, dylan was not thinking about this, but that's it, ronald reagan, when he chose her, he harkened back -- i don't think he did it for this reason, but some of the early founders hoped the supreme court would have politicians on it, people who had run for office, and knew public opinion and knew how to form coalitions, and when dwight eisenhower appointed a justice, he picked earl warren, and that brought together the ruling for brown versus the board of education. that was another way that sandra day o'conner was a welcomed throwback to that earlier period, just as melissa was saying, she served in the state legislature, and she felt comfortable thinking for herself. the thing we were already all talking about this morning was the fact that when she came on to the court in 1981,

reagan. i know trump republicans probably don't understand that because they probably don't read ronald reagan, what ronald reagan said, or ever listen to what ronald reagan used to say, but that's what reagan said. he said it in the farewell address to americans, how important immigrants are. he brought up hispanic-americans are some of the bravest, some of the toughest, some of the best fighters that we have in uniform, which i'm glad he brought up. i've heard that time and again. so it is interesting, susan page. while some of the condemnations may not have been as full throated as some would like, it is interesting that most republicans now do feel comfortable, at least these presidential candidates in at least condemning him for what bill barr said was foul language. >> i don't know if i would give them that much credit. nikki haley, the child of immigrants, she says they're not helpful. i mean, these are dehumanizing comments with a fascistic history. poisoning the blood of our country, earlier president trump referred to them as vermin. this is language we know about in not-so-far history. why are the cand

reagan took decisive and strong action. he reflected tankers as u.s. tankers. when a hole was blown through of the ships, the reagan administration president reagan check out half the iranian navy. why don't we do something like that now? do you think that happens if we are hit? >> is a very strong policy responses. a member of the carney are doing some of that now. the threat has changed. it's the drones, and of course the crews missiles going over towards israel so carney and others are helping with that piece of it right now. we also, back in the 80s conducted a strike on some iranian oil platforms. it is an option if this continues to see legitimate iranian infrastructure or military targets. or their proxy militia targets hit. and i am telling you it's something the pentagon and central command and the white house have to be thinking about at this point. developing some options. eric: doctor rebecca grant, fox news contributor always good to see you thank you. thank you. if i've idf forces continuing they're all out assault on the gaza strip after the week long cease-fire that led to the release of over 100 israeli hostages ended friday. the israelis also

reagan. i think two of his if you think of great moments of ronald reagan, which i know none of you were then, but if you could remember some of the you know, you've probably seen clips of ronald reagan, what comes to mind. tear down this wall right. so in 1987 and if you if you've read that chapter in your book, you know that not all of his advisers wanted him to say that. and colin powell was one of the ones kind of arguing against it. maybe you don't want to say that, mr. but that was that was like a reaganesque, right? and that's one of the things he's known for, for that kind of powerful during the cold war. two other really important moments had in 1984 at the the d-day. he gave a very powerful address that brought a lot of people to tears. and also when the challenger exploded in 1986, the you know, in the the astronauts died. we watched it live on television. he gave very remarks after that. and reagan didn't write his own speeches. some presidents are very active in writing their own speeches. you know, kennedy, clinton obama. but reagan had a very skilled team of speechwriters who, knew him and understood his voice his language and the things that he wanted to say. and when

he's older now than reagan was when reagan finished.w they used to talk about how he was out of it? is almost as old as two teddy roosevelts, and that's way too old for a president, but is not that old if he were a tortoise. so if he were running for president of the galapagos islands, he's in good shape for that. >> tyrus: he's in his prime. >> joe: he had a great one, i think it was yesterday in his speech. he always has a saying and then he says this thing no one's ever said before. "as they say, the saying goes, where i come, you bring me to the dance early on." that's not a saying. >> greg: no, it's not. [laughter] >> joe: that's not said by people who have power of attorney over themselves. [laughter and applause] >> greg: dance with the person who brought you. but that was somehow scrambled into whatever that crap was. >> joe: he's not dancing with anyone. >> greg: he's not. he is like a tortoise in that he needs help being turned over when he's on his back. kat, you're the youngest on the panel. sorry, emily. do you think people

reagan do? and it's going to come out in 2024, and what i learned more than anything else, ronald reagan was a slave to the truth, he stood up for the truth whether popular or unpopular. in 1984, he stood up against the john birch society. he would not put up with our party standing for lies and deceit, even if it gave him political progress. that's the kind of president i will be, and i will draw that inspiration from the 40th president of the united states, ronald reaganigh when you look at george washington, the responsibilities of how do you go and take on this great american experiment and make sure that the people are protected and they always knew that government was to secure the rights of the people and never meant to be all things to all people. and you look at abraham lincoln and the challenges and the division that happened in our country and the ability to lead in spite of the loud noises and say what will bring out the best in people to get us to go forward is always something that's important and i think that we need that now more than ever. >> govern desantis? >> reagan and washington and lincoln, excellent and one of the guys that i'll take is calvin coolidge. people don't talk about him a lot. but he's one of the few presidents that got almost everything right and he understood the proper role of government under the constitution, we need to restore the u.s. constitution as the centerpiece of our national life and that requires a presi

conservative principles, hit is when ronald reagan's hit is when ronald reagan's conservative as well as the letter nation down the path of prosperity is when ronald reaganrder for our nation to prosper, we needed to eliminate wasteful spending ladies and gentlemen, o bigger day wasteful spending, the one black friday. [applause] [applause]the 47 ideals of eliminating black ideals of eliminating black friday that i will bring the american people but if i'mai elected for the 47 present nuptial this was a presidentialt debate. [laughter] reall day one i will signed an executive action and sells executive action and sells really that good until the workers to spend thanksgiving at home, usa usa. >> usa usa.e >> thank you very much. are back.ed >> to be i served on our like saint himself object was twice and also you in this economy, i have to go with todd's. [applause]d on [applause] ar people hurting final debate michael versus janice are you ready. >> last year, west america" isas diehard christmas movie in diehard christmas movie in america split by system so close, despite it out here, michael tell us why it is in fact movie a christmas moviev >> thanke