in the meantime, svyatoslav pavlyuk, executive director of the association of energy-efficient cities of ukraine, an expert on energy efficiency, will appear on our airwaves. i want to tell you that another 1,000 has been added to our account, that is, in total, as of this morning, you and i have already collected 16,000 hryvnias, don't stop, our marathon continues, at least andrey and i will be in it for another hour and a half, you can throw us a little more, not for our military money, but it's nice, and we're very happy about it when we get that money in our account. moreover, svyatoslav pavlyuk is already in touch with us, mr. svyatoslav, we welcome you, mr. svyatoslav, can you hear us, because we can see you and even hear some chatter. good afternoon, i can't hear you and i can't seem to see you, i don't have a good connection today, so blame it, we are sitting without electricity, and i i work through a mobile phone. wow, that's how the expert on energy efficiency is sitting without a light, it's some kind. scheduled outages , well, it’s hard for me to say, they’re just not in

journalists claim here, here, so you can see all this in full size on bios info, we also have it, svyatoslav pavlyukout it yesterday. that of course there is still such a discussion here, whether it is , for example, an outbreak of corruption, or whether it is a problem of public administration, you know that oleg soshalaiskyi, a well-known ukrainian journalist, investigator, one of the founders of investigative journalism in ukraine, i believe that everything after all, this is conventionally speaking, as a question, as what is the first egg or hen, that this is still a manifestation of corruption in the supreme, higher power, and accordingly, that's how we have such terrible stories, i follow a little different. thoughts , it seems to me that the institutions themselves do not work, well, that is, the very presence of a person who, well, as if no one has powers and so on, but she manages everything, it is not even about corruption, it is already something else, it is degradation in fact, of the very constitutions of power, that is, it is more than corruption, gentlemen, well, in our country, we wi