alix: virgin atlantic, is it just about spacex and blue origin? ed: virgin galactic would say no.hey would say they see an opportunity for limited zero gravity sign big experimentation not just tourism, but the technology is different. it is a few minutes of weightlessness relative to what spacex can achieve at lower orbit. spacex has the differentiator and is able to carry payload for a much broader set of customers. how many tourists are willing to pay the $250,000 to 500,000 dollars a ticket to go on virgin galactic? that is always the existential question. jon: appreciate it. ed ludlow joining us from san francisco. facebook's parent met out, the stock is down about 2%. mark zuckerberg selling shares for the first time in two years. he unloaded 185 million dollars worth of stock in november. we know that that i has had a huge run. the stock has barely moved since zuckerberg laughed sold shares. last year, there was no activity for the entities that represent his fortune, which oftentimes he is selling as part of his charitable contributions. alix: it is hard to draw a real con

hook up with their alliance partners, their sky team alliance partners, their france, klm, and virgin atlanticthat gives them exposure, really, from france, amsterdam, and london, almost the rest of the world that they -- maybe people couldn't access from the u.s. and then, on the -- on corporate, so, here's how we think about corporate. air quotes around everybody talks about corporate not coming back, but pragmatically, the u.s. economy has grown quite a lot in the past four years, and so what managed travel will come back has come back. what really hasn't come back that i think people are forgetting is that one-day trip. and eventually, when people can trust the industry again, it will come back. >> it sounds like that's where you think loyalty may fold in, yeah? >> exactly. delta has already a very good group of loyal customers, and as the american express card becomes accepted in more locations, we think they'll be able to pick up additional credit card holders and it's proven by really all the airlines that if you have a credit card, you're more loyal. >> so, what's with the stocks, hela

what do you think the reason is for virgin atlantic doing this? >> do you pure virtue signalling?we're going through now with everything is with copper and everything is pure virtue signalling and that's different subject. no, that's a different subject. no, no, “0, that's a different subject. no, no, no, no, no, no, no. it's i mean, no, no, no, no. >> i'll do i'll do that. >> i'll do i'll do that. >> i'll do i'll do that. >> i can bring up my first graph that can be brought up. >> well let's the first >> well let's put up the first paups >> well let's put up the first paul's graph. he's got paul's first graph. he's got a graph yeah. and we said graph here. yeah. and so we said that promised to put him on that we promised to put him on the screen. >> same point. >> the same point. >> the same point. >> see. coming >> so let's see. it's coming up. keep so does that keep talking. so what does that mean? that? what is that? >> that is the co2 growth. it's the international accepted. it's at top of hawaii at the lower top of hawaii mountain. everyone at the lower top of hawaii mounta