now, it's shorthanded by saying white house history with frank sesno, who's our moderator. and. and, frank, you have big shoes to fill, at least high shoes to fill, because we have ann compton here and we had four episodes of white house history with ann compton. and that was great fun as well. this program is put together by the david rubenstein national center for white house history here at the association, led by dr. colleen shogun, dr. matthew costello, and all of their colleagues who are here today. put in a tremendous amount of work to put on this series, as well as our other substantive programs that we have as part of our education mission here at the association. i'd like to acknowledge a member of our board of directors, anita mcbride, who is here, and three distinguished former members of our board, bob mcgee, martha kumar and mike mccurry, who are also on the panel. we have several members of our national council on white house history who are the real wind in a in the sails of our work. and we're very, very grateful for their support to helps make our nonprofit and

back in the day when frank sesno was the cnn bureau chief in d.c., jonathan karl was the cnn capitol hill correspondent. and i was the capitol hill producer. i was his producer. yeah, the best producer i ever had. okay. he says, i mean. we we had a lot of fun. seriously, this is if i if i'm sorry to already started interrupting. no, but i have to say massively awesome to be here with you, because you and i work together through a very intense time in american history. and included an impeachment of a president. could you imagine a. september 11 terrorist attacks and all the aftermath of the anthrax attacks on the us capitol? and seriously, i it's great to be with you again. it's been a while and it's really, really good. no, it's true. it's true. and by the way, do you know that back then there i was thinking about this and we were kind of barely had cell phones. yes. there was no there were no blackberries. there were no clearly no iphones. yeah. like, how do we beepers? we had beepers on on september 11 and we were communicating back and forth the beepers. and i had a really high t