well, joining me now is the independent peer and former labour mp kate hoey, former labour mp kate hoeyr labour mp kate hoey, former labour adviser paul richards. evening and associate editor at the daily telegraph mutaz ahmed . i'm joined now by mutaz ahmed. i'm joined now by our political correspondent katherine forster over in westminster hall, catherine, what's the latest on that? so you're not going to . you're not going to. >> hello . yes, an evening of >> hello. yes, an evening of high drama following last night's evening of high drama. but of course , tonight the but of course, tonight the stakes are so much higher. we are several votes into votes on about 7 or 8 amendments. they're happening every 15 minutes. and then at the end of those in about probably another half hour or so , there will be what's or so, there will be what's known as the third reading. they will debate the bill for one houn will debate the bill for one hour, and then at the end of that, they will have that crucial vote on the bill as a whole. do or die for the prime minister. now now, they do expect the bil

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but kate hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing.ut weeks ago,(ate hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and they weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and the right�*ks and weeks ago, and the right thing for the laws won't be the same the thing same thing as the right thing for the conservative party. they're remainers . they're a house of remainers. they're a house of remainers. they tried down brexit. they tried to take down brexit. they're do same they're going to do the same thing rwanda. have thing with rwanda. martin i have faith that they're going to respect will respect the democratic will of parliament respect the democratic will of parliar of it respect the democratic will of parliarof lords, i think, house of lords, i think, understands appreciates . understands and appreciates. >> if they don't, they >> and if they don't, they certainly enough >> and if they don't, they certemigration enough >> and if they don't, they certemi

kate hoey. but what about this conversation of getting house of getting rid of the house of lords? seem, at least people contacting this channel all channel seem to say all they seem frustrate the will seem to do is frustrate the will of people first. on brexit of the people first. on brexit and rwanda. and now on rwanda. >> well , it's and now on rwanda. >> well, it's a revising chamber. >> that's the point of it. and if you don't have you have if you don't have it, you have actually little check on actually very little check on the in this country. the executive in this country. the fact of matter is, is the fact of the matter is, is that british that the way the british constitute works would become that the way the british constitextremely would become that the way the british constitextremely unwieldy come either extremely unwieldy or possibly not even effective, not even workable without some sort of chamber like the house of lords. >> okay, so you want to replace it with something else. >> you want to replace it with an chamber. so that it's >> you want to replace it with an

and when we had kate hoey on the show last year, she called it the house of remainers.rein the rub. if and therein lies the rub. if they try and beef it up, it will get voted down anyway, won't it ? get voted down anyway, won't it? well, it can be sent back, but ultimately it can be pushed through. but i think what they've got to take into consideration what the consideration is what the uk supreme said and that, you supreme court said and that, you know, as we can satisfy supreme court said and that, you knovor as we can satisfy supreme court said and that, you knovor the as we can satisfy supreme court said and that, you knovor the government�*n satisfy supreme court said and that, you knovor the government cantisfy that or the government can satisfy that, they'll get this bill through. but this is not a good look for the party in an election which should be, election year, which should be, um, already um, united and it's already suffering polls. and once suffering in the polls. and once again, the public, again, it's showing the public, is this a party fit to govern