mr kinnock?arge >> well, we're seeing large numbers coming numbers of indians coming across. have supported the across. we have supported the government on india government on making india a safe people also coming safe country. people also coming from countries like georgia, we've supported the government making a country. making georgia a safe country. so there are many more deals you can do to facilitate removals. but from our but of course removals from our country dropped by 30% country have dropped by 30% since 2010. if you're not removing people who failed to get asylum , then the entire get asylum, then the entire system gets clogged up . and system gets clogged up. and that's one of the reasons we have this massive backlog. that's one of the reasons we hathat massive backlog. that's one of the reasons we hathat massivmakezlog. that's one of the reasons we hathat massivmake ofg. that's one of the reasons we hathat massivmake of this >> what do you make of this 16,000 people who arrived he

there was stephen kinnock . we signed up to kinnock.signed up to international agreements and this strengthens our sovereignty . well, that was the argument for remain and jenrick and braverman saying , look, if we braverman saying, look, if we stay part of these outdated agreements, we cannot govern our own country. this really is the brexit debate all over again . brexit debate all over again. and actually in the whole of the house of commons, there are really very, very few mps that support what is now a view in this country held by at least . this country held by at least. 45% of people, maybe even higher than that. let us go now to westminster hall and join chris hope gb news political editor and chris, i understand that voting is taking place, but i wonder , are they going to be 30 wonder, are they going to be 30 mps that have the courage to vote against their own government ? government? >> the answer to that is probably no, nigel. mps that you hear bell behind me, that signals mps to get to the voting lobbies. they're voting rig

as - kinnock. as for. kinnock.for the opposition parties, plenty think the rwanda policy is ridiculous, morally, practically, financially. the labour party is opposed to this bill in its entirety, for the simple reason that we are opposed to the rwanda scheme in its entirety. 0n the snp benches, we will fight this rotten bill all the way, today, tomorrow. — this rotten bill all the way, today, tomorrow, and at any opportunity we -et. tomorrow, and at any opportunity we get nol— tomorrow, and at any opportunity we get not in— tomorrow, and at any opportunity we get. not in our name. and _ get. not in our name. and in— get. not in our name. and in the last few minutes, the illegal migration minister pleaded with his colleagues to back the government, arguing its plan is as good as things get. fiur government, arguing its plan is as good as things get.— government, arguing its plan is as good as things get. our rwanda bill is tou . her, good as things get. our rwanda bill is tougher, tighter, _ good as things get. our

and yet here you have kinnock saying , stephen kinnock kinnock saying, stephen kinnock saying that this we, we absolutely have to meet our environmental targets effectively . but what, what effectively. but what, what matters is how we get there. so the devil is in the detail of this stuff. >> and do we really want to be in a country? emma with everything that's going on, turbulent times we're in, turbulent times that we're in, in a country can't make its in a country that can't make its own steel ? own steel? >> yeah, i think there's a real, um, involved with with um, risk involved with with deindustrialisation and particularly you see this push for net zero, which obviously has an impact on any industry. um, and i think the fear is that we will become dependent point on other countries in an increasingly turbulent and unreliable geopolitical situation mission. i don't think that we should be deindustrialising with net zero in mind. so i would also be interested to see, um , how interested to see, um, how labour handled this, because obviously as as matthew was said, it's a lot of peop

i'll also be joined by shadow immigration minister kinnock. what's minister stephen kinnock. what's labour's plan to the boats? labour's plan to stop the boats? i'll be speaking to robert jenrick, the man who resigned as immigration after immigration minister, after saying just saying the legislation just wasn't enough . we'll also wasn't tough enough. we'll also speak to one of those unelected peers who might just try to water down the government's rwanda plan. that's lord alex carlile, has branded the carlile, who has branded the bill a step towards totalitarianism. earlier in the week. and after both the king and the princess of wales revealed health problems. this week, i'll speak to an author on all things royal. the author and journalist robert hardman . journalist robert hardman. well, let's let's get kick started with the papers now with patrick o'flynn. he's a spectator columnist and a former ukip mep, also my former colleague at express newspapers back in the day, patrick lovely to see you. obviously in the aftermath of the rwanda bill passing through the commons ju

neil kinnock.e remember to if we remember him, he used to he's writing speeches. he's a love writing speeches. it was his great passions. was one of his great passions. and of them were very and some of them were very good. some way too long, some of them were way too long, but of them are very good. but some of them are very good. so take more of an so he would take more of an interest. just like interest. others just like to take the kind draft and then take the kind of draft and then work it. it depends how work with it. it depends how close with close the relationship is with the whether the speechwriter, whether they feel speechwriter feel that that speechwriter really captures their voice and therefore on them therefore they can rely on them to sound like them. to make it sound like them. >> talking about advisers, to make it sound like them. >> back.king about advisers, to make it sound like them. >> back.king ab�*point./isers, to make it sound like them. >> back.king ab�*point. ofers, alex,

stephen kinnock is the shadow ministerfor immigration and labour. he's been giving his reaction to the prime minister's comments. the prime minister's performance at the press conference today was bizarre. very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was. he is a weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. we have seen shambolic warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill. what they should be doing is committing to labour's plan to really work with european partners to have a security partnership that will go after the current criminal gangs, after the criminal gangs, upstream, sharing data, breaking their business model. and rolling up their sleeves and having some hard graft and common sense rather than these headline—chasing gimmicks like the rwanda policy. what do you think of the constitutional issue of the prime minister effectively lecturing the lords about what they should do and urging them not to critique government policy? the prime minister's comments on that were b

stephen kinnock is the shadow ministerfor immigration and labour.rformance at the press conference today was bizarre. very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was. he is a weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. we have seen shambolic warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill. what they should be doing is committing to labour's plan to really work with european partners to have a security partnership that will go after the current criminal gangs, after the criminal gangs, upstream, sharing data, breaking their business model. and rolling up their sleeves and having some hard graft and common sense rather than these headline—chasing gimmicks

stephen kinnock and lastly , the stephen kinnock and lastly, the prince of wales has been visiting hise in hospital, where she's recovering from planned abdominal surgery . planned abdominal surgery. >> prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon by car. princess katherine said to be doing well after her procedure on tuesday , but it is expected on tuesday, but it is expected she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile queen camilla has said the king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate . the 75 year old prostate. the 75 year old monarch said he's keen to go pubuc monarch said he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get themselves checked out . that's themselves checked out. that's themselves checked out. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel. >> thanks for that , polly and >> thanks for that, p

the next prime minister of the united kingdom — neil kinnock! applause.dissuade her from entering the house of commons? yes, i said to her, actually, "look, in the end, you can do "more good for the cause by being the oscar winner "glenda jackson descending from on high to bless us poor plebeians with your presence." and she said, "that's bloody rubbish." so, i had to accept that it was bloody rubbish. glenda mayjackson — _ the labour party candidate —19,193. cheering and applause. glenda jackson adds the words "mp" to the two 0scars - she won as an actress. glenda jackson was an mp for 23 years. rising to the position of transport minister, she had to travel to europe, where she found the detail of one eu debate rather tedious. during the coffee break, i said, "hey, glenda, are you all right?" and she said, "fine." and i said, "because you keep popping out." "i'm going for a fag," she said. "right you are," i said. "yeah, i understand that." "in any case..." she said, "..it is so bloody boring." "the whole thing is boring." glenda jackson. thank you, mr

opposition front bench, stephen kinnock.wanda policy is ridiculous, morally, practically, financially. the labour party is opposed to this bill in its entirety, for the simple reason that we are opposed to the rwanda scheme in its entirety. on the snp benches, we will fight this rotten bill all the way. today, tomorrow, and any opportunity we get. not in our name. hear, hear! just before the votes, the illegal migration minister pleaded with his colleagues to back the government, arguing its plan is as good as things get. our rwanda bill is tougher, tighter, it goes further. we have a plan to stop the boats, and i invite honourable members to back it. but the standout question tonight is how many of those many, many conservative mps who backed changing the rwanda plan will actually be willing to outright reject it. well, i potentially would be prepared to, but we have 2a hours, that is a long time in politics. we've got more votes tomorrow, on more amendments. so, we are not at that position yet, where we can make that decis

we can hear noise from stephen kinnock, a local mp in port talbot. he had this to say earlier.lti—unions have put a plan _ that the multi—unions have put a plan on — that the multi—unions have put a plan on the _ that the multi—unions have put a plan on the table which was a compelling plan, that would enable us to keep one of the blast furnaces open _ us to keep one of the blast furnaces open whiist — us to keep one of the blast furnaces open whilst building an electric arc furnace _ open whilst building an electric arc furnace and built in direct produced iron capability which would have given— iron capability which would have given us— iron capability which would have given us that bridge to the future that we _ given us that bridge to the future that we want to have, rather than this cliff— that we want to have, rather than this cliff edge which is going to potentially lead to up to 3,000 job losses— potentially lead to up to 3,000 job losses and remove the ability of the united _ losses and remove the ability of the united kingdom to make its own steei~ _ united kingdom to

opposition front bench, stephen kinnock.ties, plenty think the rwanda policy is ridiculous, morally, practically, financially. the labour party is opposed to this bill in its entirety, for the simple reason that we are opposed to the rwanda scheme in its entirety. on the snp benches, we will fight this rotten bill all the way. today, tomorrow, and any opportunity we get. not in our name. hear, hear! just before the votes, the illegal migration minister pleaded with his colleagues to back the government, arguing its plan is as good as things get. our rwanda bill is tougher, tighter, it goes further. we have a plan to stop the boats, and i invite honourable members to back it. but the standout question tonight is how many of those many, many conservative mps who backed changing the rwanda plan will actually be willing to outright reject it. well, i potentially would be prepared to, but we have 2a hours, that is a long time in politics. we've got more votes tomorrow, on more amendments. so, we are not at that position yet, wher

joining me now is the local mp, stephen kinnock. how are people feeling this morning?ry disappointed. we know that the multi—unions have put a plan on the table which was a compelling plan that would enable us to keep one of the blast furnaces open whilst building an electric furnace which would have given us a bridge to the future we want to have rather than this cliff edge which is going to potentially lead to up to 3000 job losses and remove the ability of the united kingdom to make its own steel. we would be the only country in the g20 not able to do that. so we urge tata steel to get back around the table with the trade unions and to look at this again. tata steel say they need to move to a greener way of operating in the uk government is helping them, giving the money, helping to move to that electric arc furnace. do you think they shouldn't be doing that, do you think they should be doing something different? ., ,., , , think they should be doing something different? ., , , , , different? nobody here is burying their heads in _ different? nobody here is burying

. —— stephen kinnock., our business correspondent who gave us an update. well, the meetings been taking place in the hoteljust behind me over the past couple of hours between tata steel group's senior management and members of the three unions that are concerned with this, which is community, unite and the gmb. now, my understanding is that tata came to that meeting determined to push ahead with its existing plan, which is to shut down both blast furnaces at port talbot. there are two of them, in order to start construction on an electric arc furnace, a new generation of furnace, which is cleaner to run, which is cheaper to run, but which can only be used to make steel out of recycled steel. so you can't make new steel out of it. now, the unions were very much opposed to this plan because it will mean substantialjob losses. and my understanding is that those jobs will start to go around april next year with more to follow in september. now, all of this, it's a quite elaborate plan, and it does mean that po

stephen kinnock, labour mp for aberavon, home of the port talbot steelworks, said the move would meanoming more dependent on imported steel. live now to theo leggett, our business correspondent. he is in our london newsroom and outside that meeting earlier today in central london. theo, bring us up—to—date on what more we know. basically, this should not come as much of a surprise, because tata had set its stall at several uns ago. what it wanted to do was invest in new steel production at port talbot, installing analogic arc furnace, a modern type of furnace that is cheaper to run and less polluting than the old—style blast furnaces that are there at the moment, but this did come with a catch. the blast furnaces and all the facilities that were required to operate them, like the fuelling plants and so on, employ a large number of people. replacing them with this electric arc furnace means there will be fewerjobs needed. that was always on the card, the debate has been over how quickly this kind of transformation happens, and it is a transfer may incidentally that is being funded in p

but they were united and they were united with a neil kinnock. a common enemy, neil kinnock. >> you can'tu were doing over them. doing a wonderful job over them. my doing a wonderful job over them. my great friend, channelling your michael gove, your inner michael gove, pretending that black is white. there are caveats, obviously. look to you talked about a hill to climb. labour has to overturn an 80 seat majority . but yeah an 80 seat majority. but yeah it's not down to about 56 now. >> eight seats anymore. >> eight seats anymore. >> yeah but but electorally that's a big, big shift. i think they're going to have to well they're going to have to do well in scotland because forget in scotland because don't forget the new labour years were partly underpinned assumption underpinned by an assumption that labour would win in scotland, that was no scotland, that that was no longer was longer the case. was it for a while. so they've to while. so they've got to capitalise on potential weaknesses are weaknesses in the snp. they are being helped by richard tice presenter gb news who presenter here

obviously stephen , being son stephen kinnock, being the son of kinnock, knows a little of neil kinnockng those questions shapps, the questions to grant shapps, the defence secretary. he's coming on deal to discuss on as a great deal to discuss with him. everything going with him. with everything going on red sea currently, i'm on in the red sea currently, i'm also going to be speaking to, um , who else i got on the , who else have i got on the show? i've got barry gardner coming about whether show? i've got barry gardner con should about whether show? i've got barry gardner con should scrap about whether show? i've got barry gardner conshould scrap leaseholdsether we should scrap leaseholds altogether. um, i've got robert jenrick coming on. he's obviously been a thorn the obviously been a thorn in the government's side the government's side over the rwanda bill, where does think rwanda bill, where does he think this is headed? because the lords, are coming lords, of course, are now coming back saying, going to back and saying, we're going to thwart plan . we're thwart this plan. we're

i was when we met actually, but actually we met you at the offices of kinnock, the publishers, when ias an extremely inefficient young editor. and you're, i think your first book, the carol janeway bless your memory, had brought your dutch book embarrassment of riches and said this is the most young man in all of britain and had your book. and i said that and then i read the book and it was and it was thank you it was dazzling it was your first book was it not? no, it was it was my third. the first one was also a book about dutch history of even by my standards, incredibly ponderous. over written about the dutch during the period of the french revolution and and although people were quite nice about it. and the second one was a book called two rothschild. so they said and the land of israel. and it was based on archives that the rest of our family owned. it's actually a little worthwhile. and give me a little story i was doing a seminar when you cambridge university in the seventies. there was no way you do modern jewish history absolute. no way that if you were doing religion, you co

and we are joined by the former labour leader, lord kinnock. hello! hello.wscast for the first time ever. first time, yes. it is part of modern days, and i am still catching up. are labour going to win the general election? we are not going to lose, in my view, but that is about as far as i go. there have been so many false springs and summers. and we get a first past the post electoral system, and the polls give you indications, but they are not the poll, so everything has got to be taken with the fair serving of salt. i mean, lam delighted, ecstatic sometimes, about how well we are doing. but we have got i think ten months to go yet. and, i mean, so many people have said to me round this place, "0h, is it 1992 or is it 1997?" i mean, ifanyone is going to know... it is 2024. do you know, i was thinking for different reasons a couple of days ago that even the two elections in 1974 were in different circumstances. and certainly elections of '64 and '66, in which i obviously campaigned, they were entirely different. so there is no rehearsal for any election. a

i'm going to quote a labour mp, the local mp stephen kinnock said in response to the news from port talbotor steel is growing, but by pursuing a narrow electric arc furnace only model, tata steel will be unable to seize the commercial opportunities of the future. while at the same time leaving britain more dependent on imported steel from countries whose governments won't always have britain's best interests at heart. perhaps fittingly , i can heart. perhaps fittingly, i can now announce that next week, on thursday, the 1st of february, in a state of the nation, first at the monologue will be on the move scunthorpe, another town move to scunthorpe, another town reliant on steel industry jobs. i say to all of you watching from scunthorpe, you from scunthorpe, make sure you head gbnews.com to get your head to gbnews.com to get your tickets . but of course i want to tickets. but of course i want to hear from you mel mogg at gb news.com. well, i've got some very special guests today. joining me now, shanker singham , joining me now, shanker singham, the the special the chairman of the special

. >> meanwhile , shadow immigration >> meanwhile, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock criticisedhe prime minister and his party's infighting. >> the prime minister's performance at the press conference today was bizarre , conference today was bizarre, very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was . he is point of that press conference really was. he is a point of that press conference really was . he is a weak prime really was. he is a weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. we've seen a shambolic way . warring factions shambolic way. warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill . and lord marland has told bill. and lord marland has told gb news he's uncertain about the bill passing the house of lords, as the conservatives do not have as the conservatives do not have a majority in the lords. >> this is obviously fundamental to conservative policy . i to the conservative policy. i suspect most conservatives will vote with it, but we do not have a majority. we, uh, there are a lot of lawyers . lawyers lo

speaking to gb news, presenter camilla tominey earlier, the shadow immigration minister, stephen kinnockaid tackling the crisis depends on international cooperation in a way that shipping perhaps i% of the number of people that come across the channel on small boats to rwanda is ever going to act as a deterrent. >> you're dealing with people who are fleeing violence and persecution by stopping, wasting so rwanda, which is so much time on rwanda, which is just a gimmick that is doomed to failure let's plough more failure. let's plough much more resource and time and energy into doing some of the things that have worked, like the albania we fully support albania deal. we fully support the how many other the albania deal. how many other that has worked as deterrent? that has worked as a deterrent? >> last few hours >> well, in the last few hours there has been explosion at a there has been an explosion at a major gas terminal in the baltic sea that's near russia, in what's suspected to be a drone strike from ukraine, firefighters are battling flames there at the site after reports from ukra

i think it was wasn't it, think it was 1993, wasn't it, with, neil kinnock. >> oh yeah. beach. was that one. on the beach. was that that one. yeah, so. yeah, i think so. >> oh went i should imagine >> oh we went i should imagine that, uh, rigid starmer will uh, not any the not be taking any walks on the beach the but do beach with the missus, but do you how long do you think you think how long do you think labour be in for? labour are going to be in for? >> some people are >> because some people are saying, going just saying, oh, it's going to just be 8 to years of just be 8 to 10 years of just absolute do you think my absolute misery? do you think my hope the hope is that they make the country so that they get hope is that they make the couofy so that they get hope is that they make the cou of them that they get hope is that they make the couof them beforet they get hope is that they make the couof them before them? get rid of them before them? >> think we all agree, >> well, i think we all agree, no what our persuasion no matter what our persuasion is, that there needs

. >> i like what stephen kinnock called it, the labour shadow.he voiced immigration minister. he voiced his frustration at being in day 643 of the rwanda psychodrama . 643 of the rwanda psychodrama. >> yeah, psychodrama is right. yeah it's a good way of describing it. okay, let's move on now to fascinating news in thursday's times , chinese people thursday's times, chinese people aren't having enough sex. >> yeah. so the population of china shrinks as birth rate hits historic low. and i happen to have just spoken to an expert on birth rates, which is doctor paul mallen on . my podcast, paul mallen on. my podcast, a current thing. i urge everyone to listen after they've watched hundreds of hours of gb news. good subtle. so good plug. um, subtle. so i'm now andrew, least now an expert, andrew, at least temporarily. people temporarily. so many people thought that over population was the problem that that turned out to there's kind to be wrong. now there's a kind of where elites and of lag where the elites and other yet to catch other people have yet

speaking to gb news, presenter camilla tominey shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock said tackling . cooperation. >> there's no way that shipping perhaps 1% of the number of people that come across the channel on small boats to rwanda is ever going to act as a deterrent. you're dealing with people who are fleeing violence and persecution by stopping , and persecution by stopping, wasting much time on rwanda , wasting so much time on rwanda, which just a gimmick that is which is just a gimmick that is doomed failure. plough doomed to failure. let's plough much more resource and time and energy into doing some of the things that have worked, like the deal. we fully the albania deal. we fully support deal. support the albania deal. how many that has worked as many other that has worked as a deterrent and finally thousands of patients with inherited blood disorders are set to undergo a world first in genetic testing . world first in genetic testing. >> starting from tomorrow. people in england with sickle cell disorder and thalassaemia can access the test. it's designed to improve bloo

speaking to gb news presenter camilla tominey shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock said tackling the crisis depends upon international cooperation . cooperation. >> there's no way that shipping perhaps 1% of the number of people that come across the channel on small boats to rwanda is ever going to act as a deterrent . you're dealing with deterrent. you're dealing with people who are fleeing violence and persecution by stopping, wasting so much time on rwanda, which just a gimmick that is which is just a gimmick that is doomed to failure. let's plough much more resource and time and energy into doing some of the things that have like things that have worked, like the we fully the albania deal. we fully support albania deal. how support the albania deal. how many countries that has many other countries that has worked deterrent? worked as a deterrent? >> or just a little bit of breaking news for you that we've been receiving in the last few minutes. a 36 year old woman and a 45 year old man found dead at a 45 year old man found dead at a house on friday in norfolk, both died from

the tory party fought the form of fought labour in the form of neil the run up to neil kinnock in the 179 seats. they seem , some of them, seats. they seem, some of them, these tory mps in my view, to have a death wish. yeah they seem to be suffering from amnesia here, aren't they? >> and they can't seem to remember what happened. and i think also i think political parties, when they sort of stay in the doldrums and they stay 20 points behind and more in the opinion polls, they just get scared. um, and they just don't act rationally . and the tory act rationally. and the tory party at the moment, you know, some of the mps just are not acting rationally and they've got to come together, work together, know the old together, you know the old adage, you either win together or you die all together. adage, you either win together or you die all together . and i or you die all together. and i think that's got to be fought. but i think at the moment, um, there's a lack of realism now. i think 24 is d—day. there's a lack of realism now. i think 24 is d—day . you know, think 24 is d—day. you k

. >> meanwhile, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock criticised the prime minister and his party'ss conference today was bizarre , very difficult to was bizarre, very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was, he is a weak minister leading weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. >> we've seen a shambolic warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. >> it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . we want who do recent history. we want who do we want to ? we want to? >> what do we want ? where do we >> what do we want? where do we want it now ? want it now? >> schools have closed, public transport is limited ,

and also we've got stephen kinnock as is the local mp as well, who is the local mp there as well as shadowblock, latest the rwanda roadblock, the latest one of lords, and one in the house of lords, and of course, what's he's going to be doing support the be doing to support the community um also, one of community there. um also, one of the chiefs nato is the big chiefs at nato is talking all out war with talking about all out war with russia in the next 20 years, years. >> i mean, how how true could that be and how ready we that be and how ready should we be?and should we be giving up >> and should we be giving up our ability to make from our ability to make steel from scratch in places like port talbot when we probably need to become energy and militarily self—sufficient ? self—sufficient? >> yeah, that's absolutely. and not everybody is convinced that, of that we are at the of course, that we are at the moment. so how do you feel? gb views at gv news.com? how would you about conscription , you feel about conscription, about your children's, your relatives ? how would you feel relatives?