doctor lee edwards is double zero one. barry goldwater and bill buckley and falwell. at the national level longer than everybody except for doctor lee edwards so he's a dear friend i've known since 1961 and he called me on l the phone one day and said i'm having lunch with a young conservative. so we had lunch at the hotel and saw it went so well we invited him back into ten days later just he and i and he said i spoke magic words to him that i want him to come work with me and help me build the conservative movement and he said atng that point i gave hima little pay increase, but anyway after some years he left and ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house and then after that he left and started something called the leadership institute and almost no organization i can think of that's more important than the leadership institute the trains well over a quarter of a million young people, many governors, senators,ro congressmen, legislators over the years. right now as we speak, i'm chairman of the company and they are in jerusalem with other national conser

lee edwards, who's double or what? barry goldwater and bill buckley and brant senior and falwell robertson recently all did you know so i'm a i'm an active at the national level longer than everybody except dr. lee edwards. so lee is a dear friend i've known since 1961. and he calls me on the phone one day and says, let's have lunch with this young conservative of you need to know him. he doesn't know you. you don't know him. so we had nice lunch at the mayflower and so i liked the lunch money. so well invited. morton back ten days later for another lunch as he and i. and at the end the lunch, morton said, i spoke magic words to it and the magic words i spoke to him. i said, morton, i want you to come work with and help me build the movement. and he said at that he would taking a pay cut. i gave him a little pay increase. but anyway after some years he left and they ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house. and then that he left and started something the leadership institute and it's in there almost no i c

. >> edward: so, lee, artificial intelligence we have the first lawsuit from "the new york times" suingsoft and openai for using thousands of intellectual property to teach chatgpt to learn. will therapy and ai reckoning and 2024, do you think? >> i think there will be because this is going fast. i woke up this morning not that hung over and i didn't drink that much champagne last night, but when i started thinking about what are the things that will surprise people in the stock prices question market is not the fed, right? the number one thing what if we get major lawsuit with ai and what if congress tries to get in there? i think those lawsuits will be weak. i don't think we will have -- we will not have the same type of totalitarian congress system that europe has. now, if we are in europe come i would be a little bit concerned. but here in america, the courts have always backed up big tech big businesses. i'm not saying that is good. i'm saying that is the most likely thing to have going forward. ai can get around a lot at that but to scrape the internet and take all human knowledge

edward lawrence, thank you so much. good to see you. let's welcome back to the show, former economic adviser to former president trump is steve moore and gop poster lee carter. thank you both so much for coming on the show. good to see you both. steve, what do you think of edward's report in the gdp number? >> he had a great report and buried the lead and look at last six quarters, the government has been by far the biggest sector of growth in the economy. that's a bad news story. that's not a good news story. we were run ago $2 trillion annual deficit and want the government to be shrinking so what's happening is each month the government keeps getting bigger and bigger and it's crowding out private sector investment and that's a story that doesn't have a happy ending. now, is 3.3% growth rate a good number? sure, it is. no question about it. 2.5% for the year is fretty good and most economists were wrong as you know. most economists said we might go into a recession in 2023. thank god we didn't have it. i just feel like this is an economy with termites in the basement which is this massive debt we keep building up and at some point, it can't contin