lester took to inform me the miller, who was outside of the prison in pretoria from it, took us through the circumstances of his release, the whole prison. it's ortiz, have said that he is eligible for parole, and as since being released up because he has to have at least half of his a 13 year sentence. but if we look back, he was initially sentenced to 5 years in prison for manslaughter. that was appealed and it was late to extend to, to the teen years. it has been quite a journey full most of the story is to, to get parole. this isn't the 1st time that he applied. it was previously denied. also linked to some of the confusion around the time served and of course reversed income's family opposing that to parole. when he was denied, lost joy, he then appeal that decision and that's when he was granted parole. and he has now returned to a family home. we believe in pretoria leave us the incomes family has said that they know that the justice system would allow full parole. they understand this to be a reality, but they don't believe justice has been served. they don't believe that a scope of stories is remorseful, then they also say the people servi