he had a run-in with ted bundy.'s there's grains of salt all over the place. >> i'm into it. >> ted bundy escaped from jail in colorado. he was living there at the time. >> this is a crazy story. >> kurt was camping. he had his plate of food, went to get a beer. he comes back and his plate of food was gone. ted bundy gets caught and recounts how he survived after escapes. he said he found a guy camping and goes and eats his food. >> jimmy: oh my god. not only is he a murderer, he's a thief. >> yeah. >> he's got crazy stories. >> jimmy: when your parents are unusual, do you find that you become closer to each other? >> because our parents are crazy? one time speaking of we decided to prank one of our brother's friends and pretend we were a family of vampires. we were very imaginative. i was like 9. >> this poor kid, he was probably like 11. we said we were a family of vampi vampires. any time he would come over, subtle like -- >> we went all out. i'm surprised neither one of us became a production designer, because w

there with his 4 x 6 photographs of my mouth and he said i was past president of this and i helped ted bundyter the innocence project took his case and newly analyzed dna showed someone else committed the crime. >> did you ever think you were going to get out? >> no. i was going to die in prison. >> four separate governmental scientific bodies have concluded that scientific bite mark comparisons aren't valid. the national institute for standards and technology, the gold standard for measurement science said in 2022 that bite mark analysis lacks a sufficient scientific foundation because human dental patterns have not been shown to be unique at the individual level. one 2016 study found that self-described experts couldn't distinguish between animal bite marks and human marks. >> people that were board certified did not agree about what a bite mark was. if it's science and it's science and it's not reproduceable and not reliable, courts of law should not allow it in. period. bite mark analysis has been used in thousands of cases and no u.s. court has ruled it inadmissible. >> there are still

or ted bundy or something like that. >> jimmy: yeah, right yeah. [ laughter ] >> when we showed up to, where a lot of the story takes place, he was there with his whole family. we had a one-on-one chat. >> jimmy: did you fight? [ laughter ] wouldn't that be cool? >> no, but it could have gone that way. oh, man. i was ready for him to be, "dude, you messed that up." >> jimmy: what was it like getting in that ring for the first time? >> i don't even know how to put it into words, man. you sign on to play a wrestler, you know you're in for a bit of -- i don't know, "magic mike" scenario, kind of. but there's the moment that it becomes real. and you're out there in front of a huge audience. >> jimmy: oh, so those people were really there? >> yeah, a lot of them were real, you know, big wrestling fans. >> jimmy: right. >> but you know, the way we shot the film, we did, like, really long takes. we'd shoot the whole wrestling sequence kind of at the same time. so the matches could be anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes long. we would do the whole thing start to finish. so you would emerge, see th

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