andriy borisovych, but what to do with russia, this is a very frequent question. now, now, now that, i will answer, and that is why, the only country that can say something there and disagree is russia itself, because it is an aggressor country that started this war, and our work, if the question was about architecture, it began with the first meeting, here i see a photo, with the first meeting at the level of advisers on national affairs. security of political advisers in denmark in copenhagen, i will say frankly, there were 90 percent of skeptics, and this, the wrong place, the wrong time and so on will not work, but after this meeting it took place on the very day when the famous march was prigozhina to moscow, and that's why, of course... but this was an absolutely demonstrative situation happening in the country aggressor, at the same time in copenhagen, ukraine talked about a just peace. the second meeting was in jeddah, in saudi arabia, many people wrote about it, because it had already become more large-scale, there were more countries, we started with 20 plus, and there were