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the killers ofjames bolger were named after their trial.s right jenkinson and ratcliffe's that these are made public.— jenkinson and ratcliffe's that these are made public. there is much, much aood to are made public. there is much, much good to follow— are made public. there is much, much good to follow if _ are made public. there is much, much good to follow if these _ are made public. there is much, much good to follow if these cases - are made public. there is much, much good to follow if these cases are - good to follow if these cases are examined very fully and the public know what went wrong in that particular family. know what went wrong in that particularfamily. only know what went wrong in that particular family. only then can we ask ourselves the question, could this happen in ourfamily? because at the moment we don't know what went wrong. but at the moment we don't know what went wrong-— went wrong. but not everyone is in favour of courts _ went wrong. but not everyone is in favour of courts identifying - went wrong. but not eve

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bolger killers ofjon venables and robert thompson were ten at the time.ut were named at the end of their trial in 1994, if you look more recently in 2014, a killer was 15 when he stabbed his teacher anne mcguire to death at his school in leeds. he was named at the end of his trial as well so it does happen but this is a fairly rare occurrence.— but this is a fairly rare occurrence. , ., , ,., , , occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is . uite occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is quite rare — occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is quite rare and — occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is quite rare and when _ occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is quite rare and when these - occurrence. yes, absolutely, it is- quite rare and when these youngsters do get named in public, they do tend to become notorious. just why we have rowan there, i wanted to bring you some pictures we are just getting here at bbc news. this is a moving footage we are getting from cheshire police of the arrest of scarlettjenkinson. these are the moving images we are just getting in, just been released by che

the precedent that was set for example in the jimmy precedent that was set for example in thejimmy bolgerat this time i don't agree that the only way to learn lessons from this case is by naming the children or that by naming them you create a greater opportunity to learn those lessons. there are mechanisms, reviews another type of inquiries, they can extrapolate those lessons about why those children ended up committing the cruel and awful acts that they did, but by naming them you are majorly attributing some of that claim to family, you are immediately sharing the same with people in their friendship circle who may in essence have done nothing wrong, so to me you do the learning before you point the finger at other people, because who knows what the influences were on these children? were those influences primarily online? was it an influence by virtue of the way they were supported and brought up and felt attachment or not with their family? we don't know. but we are speculating about a particular family who will be someone's neighbour and live in summer's community. it neighbour and

you do that and what is to be in your um, your reaction to president biden, after all you are, is a bolger of his, in a way, last time around i have always been a very, very strong forwarding to me and critical by that friday before going into fascist coalition, thinking that i'm going to speak to the issues of wealth inequality and mass incarceration to cut back on militarism. but i was wrong. and that's why i'm really convinced that he's no major alternative to the neo fascist option of trump. that by themself is not just of the neighborhood of jo side of ethnic cleansing is quarter of a part time like regime. but he also is so deeply, deeply tied to a kind of a mirage. as mirage is thinking that he's actually going to be pro labor only shows up for a few seconds and then pulls back and shuts down the railway workers in this straight. and the labor movement too often steal up for him. the same as doing the black community brings in some black faces in i places and yes, deal reinforces policies that do in black for one working people. and so i, i do but by himself as uh, not only part of

after all, you are is a bolger of his in a way, last time round. i have always been a very, very strong forwarding to me in critical by that friday before the fashion coalition. thinking that i'm going to speak to the issues of wealth inequality and mass incarceration to cut back on militarism, but i was wrong. and that's why i'm truly convinced that there is no major alternative to the neo fascist option of trump. that by themself is not just in the neighborhood of genocide, ethnic cleansing support of a part time like regina. but he also is so deeply, deeply tied to a kind of a mirage. as is mirage is thinking that he's actually going to be pro labor only shows up for a few seconds and then pulls back and shuts down the railway workers in this straight. and the labor movement too often steal up for him, saying this to in the black community brings in some black faces in i places and yes, deal reinforces policies that do in black for one working people. and so i, i view by, by himself as uh, not only part of the problem, but no serious opposition

let me refer you to one of the most famous attempt —— examples, the killers ofjames bolger. will remember this case back in 1993. how do you think this notoriety can affect the pair? it think this notoriety can affect the air? , ., ., , ., , pair? it is the notoriety that they are a art pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of. _ pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of. it _ pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of, it is— pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of, it is not _ pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of, it is not the - pair? it is the notoriety that they are a part of, it is not the fact i are a part of, it is not the fact that they have been name that makes the case notorious. in that case was the case notorious. in that case was the circumstances of the rather savage killing of the child, delivering and killing of the child. and just how shocking that was to people. that is the notoriety. it is not the fact that the people are named. currently the notoriety is the fact that the court want to send a message. all of

. >> reporter: for 69 year old maureen bolger, the idea of moving to a new generation is energizing.uth carolina was the fastest growing state in 2023, largely because of an influx of almost 40,000 retirees and haley is betting that they get her argument. >> i think older people see it to. they know that we need a new generational leader. >> reporter: 61-year-old anna memo is one of them. >> whether it does the biden ticket or the trump ticket, i do feel that it is a very important to look at age and consider age and cognitive skill. >> reporter: but not everyone considering the state's former governor founded to be the best. >> i do think that we still have people who are 78 and 80 that can be senators and representatives. >> reporter: for edward spears, currently an undecided gop voter, it's just part of the game. >> she wants to be elected. if i was a younger candidate i would do the same thing. it's just a strategy. >> reporter: your 82, do you find her arguments about age and not finding an eight-year- old in the white house offensive at all? >> no, it's just politics. >> report

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toddlers in newcastle upon tyne, robert thompson and jon venables in 1983, they abducted and murkjames bolgern are guilty of serious violence, the law is - of serious violence, the law is clear. judges can name them because the community has a right to know the community has a right to know the full facts, who did it, why did they do it, what lessons can we learn? judges regularly named teenagers guilty of horrendous knife and gang killings like... teenagers guilty of horrendous knife and gang killings like. . .— and gang killings like... naming and shamina as and gang killings like... naming and shaming as a _ and gang killings like... naming and shaming as a barrier— and gang killings like... naming and shaming as a barrier to _ shaming as a barrier to rehabilitation because these are children at the end of the day and they need to be given the space to grow and move beyond the crime. throughout the trial brianna ghey's were anonymous, now they are named, if one day they are safe to leave jail, they might be given a secret new identities but for now everyone knows what scarletjenkinson and