and our guests are the president of the computer sports federation, dmitry smith, and e-sportsman, dotaello. so, regarding e-sports, firstly, the audience that is watching us now, i i think, most likely, this is treated as something generally quite distant: esports, or or thinks. that this is a person who sits at a computer, plays all day, this is, in principle , an esports player, in principle, well, from a philistine point of view, this is a person who spends a lot of time occupying. no one knows what, well, no, i follow this logic, a man who once went out to play football in the yard, he has already become a football player, this is not so, this is approximately, well, this is approximately what it looks like, this is very - what is an e-sportsman, so i would say an e-sportsman is a person who engages in e-sports, and here the question is, what is e-sports and how does it differ from gaming, because when a person just plays, he has fun, well, at best , without harm to health, sports ... a moment arises when a system appears , a training system, there is a team, there is a coach, ther