be perceived, what this could mean and what prospects such conversations have, let's talk with dmitry treninievich, hello, can you hear me, yes , i hear you perfectly, anastasia, good afternoon, and we are all in our last days, weeks have already gone by. saw numerous statements coming from munich, in particular from zelensky, who actively continued to do what he has been doing in recent years, to scare his european partners of russia, who simply will not today, tomorrow, but will definitely attack one of the alliance member countries if heroic ukraine does not stop. on the other hand, the secretary general of the same nato said that he did not see a direct threat from russia. from your point. a lot, a lot was at stake in connection with the ukrainian so-called counter-offensive, which did not happen, now western countries are asking the question, first of all european countries, what will happen if russia still manages to achieve its targets in ukraine, and on the other side of the atlantic. president trump will come to power, and this is such a big, double fear of the european elites of 24