greg wilder's every and iv. there are so -- ebony and ivory. there are so many interesting books. when we think about slavery. it is not just the labor of enslaved black people that produces the wealth. we were used as collateral, we were used as mortgage securities, we were used to provide global investment for everything from harvard university to banks and businesses. black people created the first financial instruments that lead to private equity and hedge funds and venture capital. not just in the united states but around the world. this is demonstrably proved with reams of evidence. first of all is the fact we do not want to talk about that. we do not want to talk about that. once you talk about that you open up a pandora's box. it should not be a pandora's box that is negative. there has been reparations for other groups in the past, including reparations for the holocaust, those things were correct. those were the morally correct choice. jason -- host: jason hill? guest: he is right but he is talking about our ancestors. unfortunately the time has passed for that type of r

greg wilder's every and iv. there are so -- ebony and ivory. there are so many interesting books. think about slavery. it is not just the labor of enslaved black people that produces the wealth. we were used as collateral, we were used as mortgage securities, we were used to provide global investment for everything from harvard university to banks and businesses. black people created the first financial instruments that lead to private equity and hedge funds and venture capital. not just in the united states but around the world. this is demonstrably proved with reams of evidence. first of all is the fact we do not want to talk about that. we do not want to talk about that. once you talk about that you open up a pandora's box. it should not be a pandora's box that is negative. there has been reparations for other groups in the past, including reparations for the holocaust, those things were correct. those were the morally correct choice. jason -- host: jason hill? guest: he is right but he is talking about our ancestors. unfortunately the time has passed for that type of reparatio