>> that's right, symone.nt out for nato they have gained two new members, sweden and finland. that was because of the invasion of ukraine. you've seen real resilience in the nato alliance and it's probably not been stronger than any period in recent history, just because of what has happened over the past two years. you've seen the countries come together, you see the mark together in terms of supporting ukraine, so to make a statement like that it really takes the air and the wind out of an alliance that has a subdued around for many decades and been part of a bulwark of intelligence sharing, military capability, in terms of economic growth and defense spending. it is putting a block on russia, the same thing right now when we look at our alliances. everyone's wants to know about how to defend against china and its alliances, as well. for countries around the world, we're not sure what is going to be the solution. the answer of who can they count on one year from today. >> i will note the only time i think a

symone, last 40.> my last final thoughts are about george santos, and say that candidate quality matters, representation matters. >> he represents every ethnic group. >> i mean, yes, i guess so. so does mazi pilip, i could argue, and republicans picked her because she, and i think they thought that voters would like her profile. she was jewish, she was an immigrant, she was a woman of color, she had served in the idf . they thought voters would like her profile and ignore her policies, or the lack thereof. and i think the lesson here is that representation matters, yes, but substantive representation matters. and there is no stand in for policy. you gotta have something. >> all right. symone, dave, thank you. what a way to and a very long and a very big night. and i wish you had home a very good night. our coverage continues after this short break. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪

. >>> greetings, everyone, i'm symone sanders-townsend in for stephanie ruhle. we are now 260 days away from the election, folks. the death of russian opposition leader, alexei navalny, has turned up the volume on the debate over how the united states deals with russia and what can be done to keep vladimir putin in check. the response to navalny's death from the front runners in the 2024 race, it could not be more different. biden is considering new sanctions against russia, will trump use navalny stuff to suggest that he -- yes, he, is facing a criminal crime of political persecution. my colleague, carob hague, has more. >> reporter: the death of russian presidents most prominent critic sparking protests around the world. three years ago, president biden warned putin of devastating consequences if alexei navalny died in russian custody. tonight, mr. biden says that he is weighing new sanctions. >> we have stations considering additional sanctions. >> reporter: russian officials say navalny died in prison while going for a walk. his wife, you, leah today said th

>> look, symone and alicia and michael, it's great. first hit on the weekend, i'm so happy to be here watching it well, it's just been terrific. look, what they're doing,, still is with daylight, as they said, last night, they are assessing the damage. they are deciding how next to respond, what will be the next wave, that will be multi tiered, that's what we heard from general austin even the day before the strikes. they faced on the criticism from the speaker and republicans about why did he wait so long? and our talk about the fact that they had specifically, specifically the weather, the cloud cover, they could've performed these strikes through the clouds, but they wanted to actually have eyes on to their surveillance in that's partly what they're looking at now. to assess in parts, the bomb damage assessment there surveillance. but what they're seeing today, talking to a senior official, is that they did give iraq prior warning. now, once it a whole lot of prior warning? no. because the iraqi relationship with all of the iranian-

and i would actually argue, symone, that he lost a criminal case, albeit by proxy.n, his namesake, the trump organization that he headed up was criminally convicted of 17 felony counts for a 15-year-long criminal scheme to defraud. no, he wasn't a council table. but he lost that case, right? that was his organization that he built, and he ran in a way that was corrupt. and think about it, there are three juries now, two civil and one criminal in the trump org case, and all of those juries unanimously ruled against donald trump or against his organization. that's 30 jurors total that ruled against donald trump. that is important foreshadowing for what he's about to experience in his criminal cases. >> mm, you wrote a piece that said just that, saying that the civil fraud trial ruling is a predictor of what's to come in as criminal trials and the jurors are a key reason for that prediction. >> yeah, and you know, we are all looking to the first criminal trial to kick off on march 25th. but i think we should also keep our eye on another date, march 1st. why? that's the

very soon, symone.ll say is that we're going to continue to do what we are doing, and the vice president really has taken the lead on this since the dobbs decision came down. she has been to 20 states, she's met with 250 state legislators. the president has met with ten governors, you know, just weeks after the dobbs decision came down. those have been really productive working meetings. we are trying to help states figure out what they can do, because they are certainly on the front lines of this. they are trying to help each other. what we've heard from those comedians is that real work, and real progress has come from that. sharon strategy, sharing tactics, literally. so we will continue to do that, and you will see, of, course the vice president will continue her reproductive freedoms tour, but also, you know, more of these roll up your sleeves mediums, as i call them. >> all, right we hope to see the roll up your sleeves meetings very soon. as jen klein told us. jennifer, clyde they keep are coming

symone sanders-townsend,, here is a hard one one michigan has a big arab american community. with how not happy president biden is handling the situation in gaza. add to that you have certain young voters who feel the same way, and we just saw that segment with gabe gutierrez and some are even saying they're unwilling more early to vote for joe biden and they're willing to brighten cease-fire. and they do not care if trump wins. what does joe biden do about that? >> look, i think the president has to do some of -- you heard peter baker detailing what some of the campaign officials have said. you heard from the president himself on this. he was interrupted at mother emmanuel ame in south carolina, by protesters calling for a cease-fire. before the protesters were moved, the president responded directly to them, with empathy p and, frankly, an explanation of what he has been doing. the biden administration has employed, they like to say, quiet diplomacy. and that is how joe biden believes in negotiating in doing business with friends and allies. and we see it play out in how he

those images that you talked, about symone. they are heartbreaking.d about that. democrats will be loud about that. but i think we need to keep some perspective. >> can i just, real quick on that stuff, because i think it's an important coda to that. if joe biden did what they wanted, and netanyahu still did not change the game there, then what? because, at the end of the day, as much as you want to propel and push and squeeze this on to joe biden, joe biden is limited in ually can do. because he's not the president or the prime minister, or the leader of israel. and that is an internal decision that he is trying to influence by leveling up the two-state solution conversation, by getting netanyahu to, not only once, but, what? three times now create a pause in this horrific process. so, i think to both of your points, gentlemen, that there is this overlay that is getting played out that, unfortunately for joe biden, he's getting squeezed by it. but the reality of it is, if he did everything that all the protesters are claiming and wanting, and netanya

bs ramesh ponnuru of the national review and symone sanders-townsend, former 6 spokesperson for vice president kamala harris. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show inth television history, t is "meet the press" with kristen welker. >>> good sunday morning. we begin with our brand-new nbc news poll which brings more warning signs for president biden and his re-election campaign.g one of our pollsters tells us we are looking at a, quote, presidency in peril. with the general election nine months away, president biden has 2020, is struggling with key elements of his base and now trails former president donald trump by wide margins on the issues voters say are most important to them.ugf joining me now to take us through the numbers is national political correspondent steve kornacki. steve, these are some truly stunning numbers. >> they really are, kristen. let's just start with the bottom line, when you ask folks, hey, if it's the general election ani trump versus biden, trump leads biden by five points. it's even mo

. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> greetings everyone i am symone to sanders a towns, and in for stephanie ruhle. now 264 days away from the election and it has been an eventful day in donald trump's court cases. we begin in georgia where d a fani willis took the stand and fired back against allegations of misconduct in the election interference case. my colleague blaine alexander has more. >> reporter: late today, fulton county district attorney fani willis herself took the witness stand. >> i've been very anxious to have this conversation today. i ran to the courtroom. >> reporter: in an often contentious back and forth -- >> it is a lie. it is a lie. >> reporter: willis was pressed about details of her personal relationship with nathan wade, who she hired as a special prosecutor on the trump case. >> you and mr. wade met in october 2019 at a conference? >> that is correct. -- which i tried to sleep with him at that conference, which i find extremely offensive. >> reporter: well if his testimony was a shocking twist in a fiery evidentiary hearing that focused on allegations that willis financia

alicia menendez, michael steele and symone sanders-townsend pick up our coverage, the weekend begins now. >>> good morning, it is saturday, february 17th, i'm melissa menendez in new york, where simone centers tencent. and michael -- at msnbc. this morning, call out from the ruling of the criminal donald trump business empire. what the trial could mean for his upcoming criminal trial. plus, we get reaction from ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, the opposition of the death of electing the valley. and the deafening silence from a critical figure. -- is here as republicans pull of aid to their allies abroad, grab your coffee, settle in, welcome to the weekend. ♪ ♪ ♪ the man who wants to when the country for the next four years could not run a business in new york state for the next three. that is part of judge arthur engoron's civil fraud ruling against donald trump. engoron also found the republican front runner more than $350 million, with pre judgment interests, trump already owes more than 450 million. a spokesperson for the trump organization called the ruling a quote horse

so far, symone, we have seen, right now, there are four criminal cases. there were two civil cases. the two civil cases, donald has been held accountable. no different from anybody else. that's why i constantly predict that he will be held accountable on all of the criminal cases as well. how many times have you heard this statement, that the wheels of justice turn slowly? they ultimately come full circle. for donald trump, it's now coming full circle. slower than we would like, because of his delay tactics, but nevertheless, it comes full circle. >> as the legal fees are mounting, there is concern, specifically in this case, from nikki haley, about donald trump using the rnc as his personal piggy bank. she doesn't want the rnc to become trump's legal defense fund. is there any way, especially with the stolen order, that that is -- >> no. he now has his insider, his family member that is going to be controlling the purse strings. if i was a donor, i would be very reluctant to send an eight dollar. i find it odd that the people who have the least or supporting the guy who has the mos

i am symone sanders-townsend in for stephanie rule. you can catch me on saturday and sunday mornings on mighty show the weekend with my co-host alicia menendez and michael steele. this week our guest include congressman pramila jayapal, and the french ambassador to the united states. we hope to see you at 8 am eastern this weekend, right here on msnbc. i will have the coffee. but for now, from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you so much for staying up late. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the fbi informant republicans hoped would take down joe biden s is arrested. >> a trusted, highly credible informant, a very credible fbi informant -- >> a guy with an impeccable credentials. >> jamie raskin on the spectacular collapse of a maga attack. now what the fani willis hearing means for the trump prosecution in georgia. the data set for the hush money trial in new york, and the indicted front-runner usis push to install his family at the rnc so he could siphon campaign cash to pay his d criminal attorneys. >> every penny will go to

emily cemented is here but symone sanders-townsend and michael steele. we are following the breaking news on the u.s. air strikes hitting targets in iraq and syria, including new reaction from the iraqi government. also, donald trump's election interference trial is officially delayed, what it means for his legal timeline. it is election day in south carolina. congressman james clyburn joins us as democrats their head to the polls. it is a very busy day of news, welcome to the weekend. we begin this weekend with the breaking news, justin, state media in iraq now reporting that the foreign ministry has summoned the highest ranking u.s. diplomat in baghdad to opper a former protest over last night's airstrikes in iraq and syria. the u.s. military says it hit more than 85 targets facilities used by iran's revolutionary guard and the militias they sponsor in the region. this is the first wave of what officials say could be a weeks- long campaign in response to the deaths of three american soldiers in jordan last weekend. joining us now is nbc news chief inte

three it is so good to have you, and welcome to the table. >> governor, it's symone sanders-townsend, to chairman. i have to ask, where were you and what did you think when you saw this news about ronna mcdaniel? and frankly, early in the week, the chief of staff stepping down. what do you think? >> first of, what can i say hello to michael, it's a delight to see you this morning. miss you at the office. the fact of the matter is, i don't know how to discern what donald trump thinks or doesn't think on any given day. the consequence i am little hesitant about exceeding the vendors of propriety. but i also know that it's a cutthroat business with heat and the gang that is a part of it. this enterprise. part of his business and part of his campaign. my guess would be that there is some area performance that she did not quite measure up to. that would be, i guess, this is only a guess, that the dnc has been at raising the rnc by substantial measures. secondly, of course, donald trump needs a lot of money to pay for all his legal expenses. seems to have picked a bit of an unusual circumst

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i militiamen this, with symone sandra townsend and michael steele. up difficult moment in the republican primary. polls are officially open in south carolina. congressman james clyburn is going to join us. plus, the former head of the nra found liable for corruption, another victory for the new york a.g.. and it is official. donald trump now owes more than 400 and $54 million in fraud judgment. the clock is ticking for him to pay up, and that juice is running. grab your coffee, settle in, welcome to the weekend. >> since today is an election day and they love nothing more than an election date, let's get right to the man of the hour, msnbc national political correspondent, steve kornacki, for us, live at the big board. >> good morning, and for those of you in south carolina who are out there voting, happy primary day! so, here it is. donald trump, nikki haley, it's basically been eight months now since the new hampshire primary that donald trump won by 11 points now. the action shifts to haley's home state here, south carolina. the polling certainly

so there is a -- >> symone, symone -- >> wasn't responsible for people to pick that one piece of theort? i don't think so? >> i understand your position and your craft but they screwed up with the el-sisi reference. he screwed up. he actually showed them again why age doesn't cover his ability to handle that moment but not until government. and that's not my point. he stumbled in that moment. and part, arguably because of age but does that affect his ability to govern? absolutely not. and if he's gonna be the messenger for his team that's the contrast that he is capable of drawing and the american people need to understand. >> all right, david jolly, symone sanders-townsend, thank you so much for being here tonight. when we come back. we have got to talk ukraine. -- talk ukraine. -- i'm starting to think this was a bad idea. what! we could find a better gift on etsy's new gift mode. oh! can i see that? ♪ happy birthday... ♪ it's a people cake! don't panic. gift easy with gift mode, new on etsy. sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sle

. >> symone, for so long, we he heard the president and allies talk about the justice department with career prosecutors just trying to do their job. now you have the vice president saying the report is politically motivated. that has been the issue of the former president. that is donald trump's line about the prosecutions over the past year or so. has the average voter make sense of that? >> i think it is important that the white house and campaign speak as plainly as possible to the facts. i think it is really important it was the vice president that first went out as the cabinet and allies of the president. she is a twice elected attorney general of california. she is second to the united states department of justice. she can speak as a prosecutor of what prosecutors should and should not be doing. as as long as they stay in that vain, it is safe territory. i don't think that is what the white house has done here. >> symone sanders-townsend, thank you. >> good to see you. >> you can catch her saturday and sunday mornings starting at 8:00 a.m. on msnbc. >>> the senate is working th

i'm symone sanders-townsend, in for stephanie ruhle. she will be back tomorrow night. and you can catch me on saturday and sunday mornings on my new show the weekend. from all our colleagues from across the networks of nbc news, thank you so much for staying up late. have a good night. up late. have a good night. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> donald trump is a need of an intervention. that is what speaker emerita nancy pelosi said the last time i spoke with her on this show, just over a month ago. well, she's back with me tonight, and i know she's not gonna hold back. she never does. we're gonna talk about everything that's happened since then. and a lot has happened since then. including two civil penalties against donald trump, totaling over four and a half billion dollars with interest. -- almost $90 million. 01 of those cases with her client, e. jean carroll, also joins me tonight. and after trump referenced carolina speech -- how far can he go before they bring him back to court again? and are they watching all this? i do want to start tonight back in 2021. with the documentary that

then back on msnbc for the weekend and atm on sunday and saturday with my co-host elisa menendez and symone sanders- townsend. alex when wagner starts. now good evening, alex.

then back on msnbc for the weekend and atm on sunday and saturday with my co-host elisa menendez and symone sanders- townsend. alex when wagner starts. now good evening, alex. >>> thanks to you at home for joining me this hour. in november of 2022 just five months after roe v. wade was overturned by thewa supreme cou, former vice president mike pence sat down for an interview on cbs. >> well, the dobbs decision this summer, i was so grateful to see, the majority of which was made up by supreme court justices that we appointed and confirmed to the -- to the court. it really gave the country a new beginning forou life. >> it was a new beginning for life according to the most pious man in the trump white house, a man so conservative he would not allow himself to be alone in the same room with a woman who was not his wife. mike pence was unafraid to be a christian warrior. he was unafraid to call for a national abortion ban when other members of his partyn shied aw from the issue. but then mike pence was asked about invitro fertilization. >> there are people who are concerned that ifpl you star

then back on msnbc for the weekend and atm on sunday and saturday with my co-host elisa menendez and symone sanders- townsend. alex when wagner starts. now good evening, alex. >>> >> good evening chairman steele. an unusual and appreciated moment in my day. >> i appreciate that, and i've got some gold sneakers if you want some. >> you know what, we'll be talking about those speakers later to, because you can't say enough about that. thank you, my friend. >> take care. >> thank you at-home for joining me this hour. in november of 2022, just five months after roe v. wade was overturned by the supreme court, former vice president mike pence sat down for an interview on cbs. >> well, the dobbs decision, this summer, that i was so grateful to see, the majority to which was made up of supreme court justices, but we appointed and confirmed to the court, really gave the country a new beginning for life. >> it was a new beginning for life, according to the most pious man in the trump white house, a man so conservative he would not allow himself to be alone in the same room with a woman who was not h

. >> immigration, symone, it's not the only issue that is front and center during the election.rtion is very salient. >> absolutely. >> you have a donald trump saying he privately supports a 16-week abortion ban but not really coming out and giving it a full-throated approval because he has to know it is politically lethal to him. >> i feel gaslight in this conversation. donald trump bragged about overturning roe. am i wrong? donald trump coming out of the gate says, these are my justices. i am the reason that they are on the bench and they overturned roe v. wade. in the same breath, he also said, i think a 16-week abortion ban, i can bring people together on abortion. >> news flash, donald trump is not pro-life. i don't -- >> what is he? >> i don't know at what point people could not figure that out inside the pro-life community or inside the gop. he's never been a pro-life. you're going to see donald trump waffle on this issue. he has already begun to do that. he's trying to delicately dance around it. what he also knows is that, if he needs to lean in hard on people to back o

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our legal system functions, our immigration system functions, -- >> not just asylum but everything, symone families in what is called the family backlog. people that have not been processed. you wait maybe 20 years to bring your adult child into the country. we have unemployment backlog of 2 million people. people, employers who have jobs that they want filled, they have qualified candidates, they want to bring them in. but are fees a capsule allow us to bring people in our set from 30 years ago. we have never updated it. >> this is the smartest i think and a realist conversation i've heard in a while on cable news about just the merits of what is actually wrong with what is happening at the border. going on details on the infrastructure. coming out of the win in new york three, a lot of folks have -- you, know we were all sitting down like, what are the lessons are taking from this? democrats have said well, the lesson, as you have to run structure on the border. run stricter on migration. because that is what he did. nbc news has reported that the number of immigration advocates and prog

. >> please hold it -- i'm not trying to be -- >> symone, i was trying to say -- >> you know what, aliciar bowl, i feel this is an fc kind of vibe. i'm ready for that. go san francisco. >>> that does it for "the weekend" the sunday morning. we'll see you back here next sunday at 8 am eastern, and be sure to follow the show on social media at "the weekend" msnbc. "velshi" starts after a short break with charles coleman. ♪ ♪ ♪ . ♪ ♪ ♪ all parts working in sync to move your business forward. with a streamlined shipping network. and new, high-speed processing and delivery centers. for more value. more reliability. and more on-time deliveries. the united states postal service is built for how you business. and how you business is with simple, affordable and reliable shipping. usps ground advantage. as the world keeps moving, help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a d

but you can catch me back here on "the weekend" with my co- host symone sanders-townsend and alicia menendeze a former cia director john brennan will be with us. that's 8:00 i am eastern, "the weekend", grab a coffee and join. as 8:00 eastern. alex wagner joins us now. agner >>> michael, you are pulling weekend do. the -- f

>> absolutely, symone. fluid under the radar, even for me as a practicing physician.ew report until after medical school, after my training. i thought was very important to mention my book legacy about this report, in 1910 that was commissioned by the american medical association, and the carnegie mellon foundation. essentially, they commissioned an educational specialist in abraham flex near, who owe through her very avidly racist writings about black people, that led to the closure of five out of seven of the historically black medical schools in the country. at the time, leaving only behind howard and the harry. it's estimated that those five medical schools, had the remained open, would have educated between 25,000 and 35,000 black physicians. if you can imagine, that is such a tremendous loss to our community, imagining the hundreds of thousands of patients they would've cared for, the students they would mentor, the research and black health that they would've done. so what to help connect the dots for people why, in 2024, only 5.7% of black physicians are black

then back on msnbc for the weekend and atm on sunday and saturday with my co-host elisa menendez and symonewagner starts. now good evening, alex. >>> >> good evening chairman steele. an unusual and appreciated moment in my day. >> i appreciate that, and i've got some gold sneakers if you want some. >> you know what, we'll be talking about those speakers later to, because you can't say enough about

but you can catch me back here on "the weekend" with my co- host symone sanders-townsend and alicia menendez. on saturday, we will be talking to south carolina congressman james clyburn, and onside a former cia director john brennan will be with us. that's 8:00 i am eastern, "the weekend", grab a coffee and join. as 8:00 eastern. alex wagner joins us now. agner >>> michael, you are pulling weekend do. the -- for our primetime south carolina coverage, with our friends from all over msnbc, including you, i think. >> yes, yeah. i'm doing the night shift. >> the reunion continues! keep it going, keep the band in extra sets. >> looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night, for sure. >> you too, my friend. >> have a good show. >> you too, good weekend. -- the clock has officially started. the judge overseeing donald trump's civil fraud case officially entered into the record and order that forces trump to pay the $454 million, including interest, he owes the state of new york within the next 30 days. mr. trump will also have to make a daily interest payment of $111,000 for each day he does not for

former rnc chair michael steele, host of the new show the weekend, alongside my friend lisa mendes and symone excellent viewing. good to have you here. you do great work. i'm loving it. okay, my understanding is that they have already paid a bunch of his legal bills in the past. but they kind of made a distinction between what they would and wouldn't pay, basically. and basically were like, we're not gonna pay for your personal legal bills, will pay for stuff that you were doing, but it seems that if it he unfroze the committee, he can get them to pay for anything? >> first of, i went broke just listening to your describing all of this legal problem. that's a lot, number one. number two, past is prologue. and you already saw how they handled as these cases and other issues were emerging during his four years, how the rnc was used financially. where resources were going and how it impacted quite honestly which is why they were winning elections in some critical states because they didn't have the resources to put on the ground. those resources were largely diverted. so here we are now, here's

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i'm symone sanders-townsend, in for stephanie ruhle. she will be back tomorrow night . and you can catch me on saturday and sunday mornings on my new show the weekend. chicago, they've got a replica coal mine, a full sized fake coal mine that you write caged elevator down into. you get on a train down there, and you ride around in the fake, bizarre, right in the middle of downtown chicago. and that museum, they've togot , actual apollo eight spacecraft, not a replica of it. they've got the real apollo eight module. they've also got this terrifying mirror maze that i can't even look at pictures of without getting my stomach all twisted i up. my edworst nightmare. it's the museum of science and industry in chicago and they have many cool things that you can see, touch, and get inside, and ride around in. but undoubtedly, the craziest thing they've got there is this, which is a real life german u- boat. it's the only one on display anywhere in the western hemisphere. this is a german submarine thata the u.s. captured during world war ii. german u-boat during world war two

[laughter] i appreciate, symone, you leaning into the fact that i'm an economic journalist to point out that yes, in the two hours that you've been on, dangerous the don trump owes continues to accrue. have yourselves a great day. >> more money! >> have yourselves a great rest of the day. see you tomorrow morning. >> goodbye, ali. good morning. it is saturday, february 17th. ali velshi. we're not even two full months into 2024. donald trump has already had quite a year politically. he has never been stronger. he has dominated the republican primaries and is on the fast- track to clinch the presidential nomination. his life away from the campaign trail is entirely different story. in the eyes of the law, he has never been more vulnerable. as his legal problems intensify, the penalties for his misconduct pileup. yesterday, the former president was ordered to pay a total of 453 point $5 million for his company's deceptive financial practices. the judgment includes 354 point $9 million in penalties, plus 98 point $6 million in interest. a monumental some the new york times speculates could,

and you can watch michael on "the weekend," the show he co hosts with symone sanders townsend, and alicia>> we have breaking news now. we have an update on the news we brought you just moments ago about president biden meeting with the family of alexei navalny. i want to go to mike memoli who's traveling with the president, what do we know about this, mike? >> reporter: well, chris, it was just moments after andrea mitchell broke the news about this meeting that the white house actually tweeted a photo of the meeting itself. president biden meeting here in san francisco with yulia, as well as her daughter dasha. you can see the president hulling yulia, and sitting down with the two. the president said he met with his loved ones to express condolences. his legacy of courage will live on in yulia and dasha and the countless people fighting for democracy and human rights. a white house read out says the president expressed his admiration, courage, and legacy for fighting for a free and democratic russia, and he affirmed to navalny's widow, he will be announcing as we expect tomorrow major sa

joining me now to talk new york politics, symone sanders- townsend is with us, harry segel, new yorkly worked for suozzi campaign many years ago. and david, political for -- a right, dave both candidates ran and it's clearly an issue for long island voters, but for facts sake, the governor's office announced that outside new york city crime fell in new york by 6% last year. murders down by 27%, right down by 6%, robbery down five. so what did you take away from the outcome? >> i'm glad you brought those numbers up because the crime issue in this race had changed this in 2022, when they were warning about crime, the panic about crime in new york city. it changed to the migrant influx into new york and if you watch tv in the district in the last few weeks you saw again and again footage of migrants scuffling with police warnings that migrants were committing crimes, that was the issue and that was what suozzi was finessing. and the fairness in a way that he was saying, if it was up to maine migrants committing those crimes would be deported immediately. if it were up to him there would

this is the show that michael hosts along with symone sanders townsend townsend, alicia menendez.s are great together, people can watch it right here on msnbc. >> thank you. >>> right now closing arguments are underway in jennifer crumbley's involuntary manslaughter trial. crumbley herself faced cross examination earlier today by prosecutors, and they asked her about her son's mental health. >> you had told us that you had never taken your son to any sort of mental health professional. >> no. >> okay. but you know how to obtain that help? >> correct. >> in fact, you have prescriptions related to that? >> i do. >> it's not that you didn't know who to call or how to call. you didn't. >> correct. >> nbc's adrienne broaddus is outside the courthouse for us in pontiac, michigan. from the little bit i was able to see and hear, it sounds like she took a bit of a grilling. the stakes here are tremendously high, not just for her but for future cases including her husband's. tell us what you saw and heard today. >> reporter: the stakes are high, and at the start of her closing argument just

. >> let's bring in symone sanders townsend. i mean, there are some situations that need to be handles in the court, because they are difficult. while i totally agree that democracy is at stake, all hands on deck, do anything you can to help this country, absolutely. but some things need to be decided in court. >> some things need to be decided in court. i just want to remind everyone we would not be here without the work of the january 6th select committee, because it was not until they took the time to peel back the layers that not only the justice department but the american people writ large understood what was happening. that understanding is very important to govern what people believe could happen in the future. there are so many people when you talk to them about donald trump in 2016 that did not believe that he would do the things that he was saying he would do. even today people brush things off that he says tongue in cheek. but i implore people that when donald trump says what he's going to do, we should believe him.

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