the postpresident job, the chief justice, is the one he wanted. >> william howard taft is a great exampleho had a dream job and they couldn't take it because the circumstances weren't right, the timing wasn't right. maybe they had an issue with their family. all william howard taft ever wanted was to serve on the supreme court. his brothers and his friend and his mentor, and his wife wanted him to be president. he turns down the supreme court three times. as president of the united states, he appoints a record six justices including a chief justice, in a single term. and there's a joke, you know, that william howard taft's son gets asked the question, is he going to be president or serve on the supreme court? and he says ma wants him to be president. he is persistent. it shows that a dream deferred is a dream achieved. and his last decade of life is his happiest when he becomes chief justice of the supreme court. and at tend of his life, he says i hardly remember being president. >> jared cohen, a fun book. it makes mere mortals think about what happens when the lights go off and the crow

william howard taft became the chief justice of the supreme court. herbert hoover presidency was considered a resounding failure. according to my next guest, one of the most influential post presidential term in history. joining us now, life after power, seven presidents and their search for purpose beyond the white house. jared, welcome. >> thank you. >> this is a terrific book. i've read the whole thing. and what i love about it is you're asking a question that kind of applies to everybody, which is what happens after some moment of triumph, of climax. and i'm wondering, given the size of this job, is there a common theme, which is do all of them at some level get depressed? >> so look, it's the most dramatic transition in the world going from president of the united states back down to earth. and i pick seven presidents that each found a greater sense of purpose, following a totally different model. the common threat across all of them, each of them exuded something that was deeply principled about. while they may not have realized about it until

. >> this last question, i remember it being in a book growing up that i had in my room, william howard taft once got stuck in a bathtub. >> okay, based on the way you just said that, i'm going to say false. >> i'm also going to say sorry you gave it away. >> not true. he, as a kid, i was taught a crane like lifted taft. it was 350 pounds out of a bathtub. did not happen. but he did come build the bathtub. that was seven feet long. so that's somebody twisted the story somewhere along the line. he did build a really big. and this one time it tends to happen with these folklores. yeah, but the wooden teeth thing you guys were like. and me too. i was like, yeah, of course, i thought taught that like kindergarten. not true. >> so whose teeth were they? you said they were made up of other human teeth. >> the british people that he defeated did he have at least like a wooden braces or a wooden retainer? no, that was a cherry tree trap down. right. that was good. >> and then he put it in his mouth. >> we are a unique law firm that only represents mesothelioma victims and their families. do you have

eisenhower, william howard taft, and grover cleveland. that is going back. the influence of the u.s. presidency and the legacies of their ancestors. >> i think my grandfathers greatest legacy is that he injected the idea of human rights into the foreign policy of the united states, rather having the focus before. >> and speaking of former president jimmy carter, he entered hospice care a year ago. you are supposed to live maybe six months once you enter, he is still going a couple of months ago he celebrated his 99th birthday. >>> when you hop on a flight without knowing where it's going ? apparently a lot of people would. scandinavian airlines announced a new experience that does just that, it is called destination unknown. passengers only get necessary clues like what to pack as the mystery flight nears and the destination won't be announced until during the flight tickets are limited to its loyalty program members with the airline said within minutes of its announcement, more than 1000 members signed up for that surprise flight ticket sales are closed and

. - so you focus on president thomas jefferson, john quincy adams, grover cleveland, william howard taft, herbert hoover, disclaimer later, jimmy carter, george w. bush. is there a common experience in the loss of power? you said, "they fall hard, fast." a grieving that accompanies the experience of all post presidents? - if i look at the post-presidency, i would say that there's a separation challenge that they all encounter, particularly in those early years. it's very hard to watch the person who comes in after you, whether you were voted out of office or you termed out. there's some element of dismantling your legacy in real time while you're still alive. it's a very difficult thing for ex-presidents to encounter. and then just by nature, as an -president, you're more muzzled than you are as president, right. you're constrained by not having the power and the platform. and so the's a real transition in watching all of them grapple with it, and kind of getting in the heads of these former presidents as they kind of figured out how to make sense of ts new chapter. all of them go throug

william howard william howard taft was president.her secret is this -- >> i didn't have children. [ laughter ] >> and she said that so matter of factually. born in west virginia, she moved to massachusetts at a very young age and actually might be the state's oldest resident. and we're told she insists on going for monthly mani pedis. don't have kids and pedis on the regular and build it into the budget. self-care. >> i didn't have kids. kids are stressful. they take years and look at all the grays up here. these are from my three kids. >> i have more life in my years. >> they bring you a lot of joy and so do the mani p eddy is. on board for that one too. >> you need to schedule one now. >> i'm a little behind. you can see. but congrats to her. >> coming up at 7:00 we're talking -- really does and always perfect. a bay area bounce-back in san jose. she's my sister. we play with each other. a new business opening up is expected to create a boost for the city economy while bringing all the fun of mini golf. >>> and willy wonka promises

by the way william howard taft was president and construction on fenway park, it was just breaking groundcret to longevity is having stress out of your life. listen to this. >> i didn't have children. [ laughter ] >> and that's the reason she has no stress. born in west virginia, she moved to massachusetts at a young age and she might be the state's ooldest resident and she insists on going for monthly manny eddies. >> look at all the family around her. and all the people who clearly love her. wow. 113. i go for my mani pedis too. i wonder on my way. >> information i was at whole foods the other day and they have blue zone kitchens. now there's food that you eat for longevity. >> netflix documentary? >> they say people live longer in those areas. >> stress free. >>> all right, i know. i didn't have kids. time now 5:57. a new economic report just released this morning that you should pay attention to. cbs news business analyst jill schlesinger will explain. >>> coming up at 7:00, we're talking about bay area bounce-backs. this time in san jose. a new business opening up expected to create

and william howard taft is the only president who served at the top of two branches of the u.s. representing a different model. the taft model is a model of a man who never wanted anything other than being in the supreme court. he revealed -- reveal a word the -- chief justice of the supreme court, and at the end of his life, somebody asked him what he enjoyed more, being president or being chief justice? he says, i hardly remember i was ever president. >> jared cohen, thank you. the book is life after power. you are such an amazing storyteller. it is such an interesting read. it is available now where you get your books. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you, dan. >> i've got one more thing to tell you about today. it is something we are working on for tomorrow night at eight pm eastern. stay with us. we will be right back. we will be right back. [splash] before advil: advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. with chase freedom unlimited, you can cashback 3% on dining including take-o

william howard taft, thank you. thank. large plot who was also chief justice. yes. so we have to give him a nod that way as well. but, you know, historically speaking, presidents selected their own burial sites and they typically were buried near family homes, birthplaces, home states. and that was typically the trend so, you know, the idea of burying a president in sort of a national sacred grounds is something that, you know, taft is buried there. the first former president buried there and then kennedy later. but for the most part, presidents have opted to be buried closer to home. should also specify that the cemetery wasn't created until after the civil war. so that takes us at a whole chunk of the presidents wouldn't have applied to that particular space. sure. no, that's for sure. anyone here would like to ask a quick question, sir, but can you. we've got a microphone, a question about choice. i think that the vast majority of americans are not familiar with box aire or farber's adagio or i think elgar's nimrod, which is traditional and i wondered if any of y

to have, but the timing wasn't right or the circumstances weren't right, you should look at william howard tafte became chief justice of the supreme court, and at the end of his life says, i hardly ever remember i was ever president. >> how many of them were always grumbling a little bit about the way they were being perceived. hoover is an example of this. there are others in the book that you sort of get the sense that they're sort of living with this this aggita all the time. >> one of my favorite lines, herbert hoover was asked at 89 years old, how do you live with your critics, and he said, i outlive the bastards. there's something about longevity. but the most important thing somebody can do is force yourself to separate from your successor as much as possible. figure out what principle you have that you want to double down on. it's very, very troublesome and problematic when you look back and george w. bush is the only one, even among the successful ex-presidents, they all grumble, they all gripe, they all throw political molotov cocktails that the their successors. it's a question of wh