me to invite glenn desan, professor of international relations with the university of southeastern norway, he's joining me from oslood to see you gentlemen, now uh let's go to glenn first, let's begin, you just heard in the introduction what this is all about, some targets and objectives of the joint drills, and this is the third time of course that iran, china and russia are taking part in such drills, so let's talk about to begin with about the... message that such joint maneuvers can convey? well the guess the main message coming forth is that the key or the lot of the largest states on the eurasian continent, so russia, china and iran are encreasingly seeking to corporate on security matters, and this harmonizes with their efforts of pursuing economic integration, we see among these states to have one more cooperation. technical uh establishing new transportation corridors, new financial cooperation so across the board, so it's quite natural as well to supplement this with more security cooperation as well, and this has been the stated objective of course, which is to fight piracy and terrorism to provide suppo