not privatise ing the only profitable bits, well , the only profitable bits, well, baroness jacqueline fosterar viewers will know she is often a panellist on this programme. >> she just sent me a message on twitter saying, if we were still in the eu , none of this would be in the eu, none of this would be permitted because railways across the eu have had to comply with the rail liberalisation regulations in brackets, the railway packages and can no longer be fully national. so is this essentially a brexit benefit? >> well, it might be a breakfast brexit benefit. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well i don't ever have breakfast on a train. it's disgusting. it may be a dis benefit, but i don't see why europe should set how we in britain run our railways. we might screw it up ourselves or make them brilliant ourselves, but there shouldn't be any eu railways legislation . then it railways legislation. then it should be up to each country to work out how to run their railways. and look the age old problem here. michelle. sorry to be an economics nerd, but that's what i am in all of these areas. the question i