i just want to play a clip of what leon panetta said and then i want to get your reaction >> sometimes to do it and you want to make sure that you're hitting the right to target you have to be able to verify to take time to make sure that the information that you're getting is accurate. with regards to targets and i have to tell you that in the past, at least in my experience, the israelis usually fire and then ask questions >> what do you, what do you make of those comments from leon panetta? there? >> i have to react to my my friend and former colleague beyond panetta have a high regard for him, but take issue with it >> it >> was a terrible, terrible tragedy. there were violations of israeli standing protocol and two senior officers now have been removed from their positions as a result of that. but these really news tonight has been reporting about the many instance that incurred in your herd in afghanistan during the tenure, among other secretary of defense's leon panetta, wary american forces killed large numbers of aid workers and the reaction in the world has not been remotely

. >> the senate passed secretary leon panetta said the israelis usually fire and then ask questions.administration still submission that there should be zero conditions on aid , military aid to israel. >> i am not going to get ahead of the president or decisions you might make or not make going forward. he was clear with his call that if we do not see changes with his policy and gaza, they will make changes. >> you think these are israeli policies? >> they can decide how they prosecute this war. we just talked about them pulling troops out. they get to decide how they will process operations. we get to decide how we react to that. the president was clear with the prime minister. if things do not get better we will have to make changes of our own. >> the president is considering withholding, conditioning. for six months we have been hearing this. humanitarian's on our program. >> we see it ourselves. we are not blind to the wrist people are in and the suffering the people of gaza are going through. i will not get ahead of him or three-judge decisions he makes. >> he feel so strongly.

that's even though that as president trump himself reauthorized it let's discuss further with leon panetta, who served as defense secretary and cidirector undepresident obama serwer. thanks so much for being with us. there appears to be confusion even by former president trump over which part of fisa was actually being voted on yesterday? so let's start with the basics. walk us through which section seven zero to actually does >> 702 basically allows the fbi to be able to do surveillance on a foreign terrorists who are calling from abroad and be able to determine just exactly what their plans are that usually involve some kind of terrorist act against the united states. so it isn't, it isn't focused on donald trump. it's not focused on american citizens it's focused primarily on terrorists abroad who are making phone calls to those that they're trying to work with in this country in order to conduct a terrorist attack? >> okay.o when we just intervwed a house republican who is talking about wanting and that ray is saying would be so cumbersome that it's dangerous, which is some warrant req

. >> brendan buck and julie tsirkin, thank you, and joining me now is leon panetta, former secretaryr and author of "worthy fights." it is great to have you here. you know, joe biden and a lot of the republican party have something in common here, they're clearly frustrated, and in fact, the president has not -- has an op-ed in "the wall street journal" urging them to pass aid for ukraine, writing if congress passes military aid for ukraine and israel, we won't write blank checks. we'd send military equipment from our own stockpiles, then use the money authorized by congress to replenish those stockpiles by buying from american suppliers. we'd help our friends while helping ourselves. >> you once were a member of the house in addition to leading defense and the cia, what do you make of what you're seeing on capitol hill right now? >> i think this is a very porn moment. i come from a time in the congress where we had strong bipartisanship where speaker tip o'neill worked very closely with the minority leader bob michael to get a lot of things done, and i think if there's an opportunit

leon panetta. thanks so much. >> thank you all right. >> good to see you. >> and anytime right now, the house is voting on advancing the foreign aid bills for final passage some very important votes about to take place. please stay tuned for that will take you live to capitol hill next how would really happen sunday? >> the people 28th at nine on cnn ai is redefining work artificial intelligence is super charging our own human intelligence. >> and that's what we'll move business forward. >> machine learning robotics and generative ai are increasing productivity. >> it's celebrating decision-making and the impacting our lives at work and beyond ai's real value is and how come? >> companies use it to empower their workforce and earn trust with customers to maximize your ai and hi investment turned to assure i brought in a juror max protein with 30 grams of protein. >> those who tried be felt more energy in just two weeks. here, i'll take that and sure. not to protein 30 grams protein one prim sugar,

former defense secretary leon panetta said on the cnn in his experience israelis usually fire and thenon position still that there should be zero conditions on aid, military aid to israel? >> i'm not going to get ahead of the president or decisions he might or might not make going forward. he was very clear in his call with the prime minister that if we don't see some changes in their policies in gaza and the way they're prosecuting operations, we'll have to make changes of our own. >> you do think these are israeli policies then to block aid? >> they get to decide how they prosecute this war. it is their operation. they decide how they prosecute operations. we get to decide how we react to that and how we administer our own policies. and the president was clear if things don't get better, then we'll have to make changes of our own. >> so the president is considering withholding, conditioning, doing anything? because for six months we've been hearing complaints like this, humanitarians this program telling us what is happens. >> we see it ourselves. we're not blind to the risks. we're

. >> the former defense secretary, as you know well, leon panetta said on cnn in the past in my experienceuestions. is the biden administration position still that there should be zero conditions on aid, military aid to israel? >> i'm not going to get ahead of the president or decisions he might or might not make going forward. he was very clear in his call with the prime minister, that if we don't see some changes, in their policies in gaza and the way they're prosecuting operations, we're going to have to make some changes of our own. >> you think these are israeli policies then to block aid? >> they have -- they get to decide how they prosecute this war. it's their operation. we talked about them pulling troops out and they decide how they prosecute operations. we decide how we react and administer our own policy with respect to gaza. we make those decisions. the president was clear with the prime minister if there's not changes, if things don't get better, we're going to have to make changes of our own. >> the president is considering withholding conditioning doing anything or -- becau

let's bring in leon panetta. he served as the former defense secretary and former cia director during the obama administration. thanks so much for being here. appreciate it. both biden and netanyahu are facing considerable political pressure as the war continues what's your reaction to biden telling that's on yahoo that an immediate ceasefire is needed. >> well, i think it was very important to make that request that if anything is needed right now, it is an immediate ceasefire. it is an effort to try to exchange the hostages, and it is an effort to try to improve human and in a look, i think this war has gone on for almost six months. and i think to some extent, both president biden and netanyahu have been talking past each other when it comes to their concerns i think that's changed. i hope that's changed today as a result of what happened with these aid workers. and as a result of this conversation that they understand that things cannot continue the way they've been what is your response when you criticize ho

joining us now to discuss former us defense secretary under president obama and former cia chief leon panettanks so much for joining us, your fellow former cia director, retired general david petraeus told me yesterday that israel is going to have to take some action and respond to iran. but he added as a whole menu from which to choose what would you advise the israeli government to do? right now to respond to the iranian attack, if anything >> well, jake, look, there's there's no question. this was historic and unprecedented attack but 300 drones and cruise missiles and icbms is an unprecedented attack. but it's also an historic failure the reality is 99% of those weapons failed and israel i think came out of winter after that attack. so my approach would be, according to the old saying that revenge is a dish that's best served cold and while i understand the need to reestablish deterrence i really think that israel has to think long and hard about what approach should they should take. they have a chance to establish an unprecedented alliance in that part of the world, united states, great

again in cairo >> and then listen to what leon panetta, the former us defense secretary and former cia director, told cnn's jim sciutto vout the, the world central kitchen seven people who were killed. >> listen sometimes >> if you're going to do it and you want to make sure that you're hitting the right to target. you have to be able to verify to take time to make sure that the information that you're getting is accurate. with regards to targets. and i have to tell you that in the past, at least in my experience, the israelis usually fire and then ask questions >> so how problematic is it for the idf? i mean, they had their own investigation. they reveal that they mistakes were made, but does that suffice? >> no. and the investigation by the idf is not finished and everyone is waiting for the official report to come out it wasn't just one single shooting that took place, but it was three cars who were shot by drones in. a distance of more than two kilometers apart from each other. so there was a real absence of judgment on the ground apparently, that had some people with weapons in th

question as to whether this is a short-term or for a long-term issue earlier today, i spoke to leon panetta, the former cia director. and here's what he told me. have a listen. i want to get your reaction to verify to take time to make sure that the information that you're getting is accurate with regards to targets. and i have to tell you that in the past, at least in my experience, the israelis usually fire and then ask questions >> fire and then ask questions that's a remarkable indictment from the former us cia director also, of course, lead, lead the pentagon. do you agree that this is a long-term issue for israel and how it conducts such military operations so i think there's a couple of facts we have a look at. one, he saw israel take responsibility for that tragedy and by firing the general and holding others accountable. i think that was the right steps to take in the right action. i think the key we all need to focus on now is making sure that we can get to that temporary pause that we can get the hostages freed because remember, not only did hamas kill one 40 americans, but they

one of my co-chairs is leon panetta and he always says nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. you can come up with certain policy agreements but you have to see the rest of them. but the problem is i don't think off the record exists anymore and i'm thinking about the capitol hill group that i'm working with right now. they trust each other pretty much. a huge piece of this is building trust, building relationship, spending lots of time together and really get getting to know one another on a personal level. empathy, understanding and human connection that only comes from time and frankly, some level of vulnerability. one of the best processes i've seen was in a different group i was working where we were around the dinner table and said what was the worst thing that happened to you on social media? people have of had had death threats, kids being threatened. but some of those people really opened up. and it was a diverse group. so some of the ways you can builder think really matter but that trust that you have that nothing is going to get leaked. but also, i think that o

. >> the senate passed secretary leon panetta said the israelis usually fire and then ask questions.s the biden administration still submission that there should be zero conditions on aid , military aid to israel. >> i am not going to get ahead of the president or decisions you might make or not make going forward. he was clear with his call that if we do not see changes with his policy and gaza, they will make changes. >> you think these are israeli policies? >> they can decide how they prosecute this war. we just talked about them pulling troops out. they get to decide how they will process operations. we get to decide how we react to that. the president was clear with the prime minister. if things do not get better we will have to make changes of our own. >> the president is considering withholding, conditioning. for six months we have been hearing this. humanitarian's on our program. >> we see it ourselves. we are not blind to the wrist people are in and the suffering the people of gaza are going through. i will not get ahead of him or three-judge decisions he makes. >> he feel s