you know, you say he was radicalized by imam youtubi, he watched youtube videos.k? >> i think in some ways, it is a very american attack. he spent four years in a basement playing video games and watching videos. and it kind of messed with his head. and also, i mean, he is born and bred and new jersey. >> jon: slow down. i think i know where this is going. >> well, you know, you are ahead of me. [laughs] but you know, we live in an america where people kill each other every 5 minutes. >> jon: right. >> i think maybe in his new jersey brain -- >> jon: [laughs] yes. that is how we describe it as well, by the way. "he's got that new jersey brain." do you think that there is a shift -- you know, we think the fundamentalism as primarily a religious artifact. have the algorithms made fundamentalism something different from that? >> i think maybe they have. i am too old to no really, because algorithms don't know what to do with me. >> jon: right. give them a chance. >> no, i do. but they don't know what to do. so i am not algor algorithmicaly influenced, but people are.