jenny leck is on newscast. so good to meet you! the latest edition of newscast, which you can listen to on bbc sounds. now, are we making poor jennifer leckie... is that her name? yeah. are we making jennifer leckie be interested in politics when really she's a person going about her business and has no intention, quite understandably, of paying attention to us wittering on. what is hilarious is when i met her on newscast the other day there, i said, "where are you on the scale of interest in politics from one to ten, where one is not interested at all? ten is like laura kuenssberg, chris mason level." and she said, "oh, i'm a one." but then in the course of the conversation, she went from one to zero. i was like, ok, this is going slightly in the wrong direction, but never mind. oh, i love that. but you've got to be so honest. well, it's a very valid point, though, and political parties always talk about this. they know that really it's only in the sort of closing moments of a campaign that most normal people, many people really t