said in particular by the minister of strategic industries of the ministry of strategy and industry kamyshyn, but there is still potential, relatively speaking, for larger quantities, and the question is where to find money for our defense enterprises, and this , by the way, was one of the issues raised at the first defense industry forum ukraine-european union, which was held in brussels. this week and we will be able to learn about the topic of this forum, about how the ukrainian and european discussed company, in the conversation with our guest anton mikhnenko, a military expert who was at this event and took a direct part in this, in my opinion, historical event, joins us. mr. anton, greetings, nice to see and hear, greetings, mr. sergey, in return, i would like to start with the first simple question, because... anyway , there were reports that some new financial mechanisms were proposed to support our defense industry , using the potential of the european union, what are the mechanisms, what is promised, how will it work? in fact, we really have to note that such a large forum as the e