david westin spoke with scott -- alan patricof --scott bessent yesterday about whether that calculationme that yellen is using cbo scoring and that is static. that is without any cuts. that is the current spending. you know, i recently met with the cbo director. had done some of the numbers myself. i think she is overstating it and is just -- what she didn't say is they won't raise taxes on anyone who makes under $400,000. that has worked for me, too. i can guarantee you that yellen and the biden administration do not have cuts in mind. i think that the trump administration would have lots of cuts in mind. david: a trump administration, assuming he's reelected, would it be only cuts or only tax enhancements at all? and you get to where we need to to get our fiscal house in order without some taxes? scott: look, i don't think -- if we go back to 2017, i don't think we need to increase anything from their. i think that what we need to do is a lot of deregulation. if i look back and think about the difference between trump 1.0, before covid, and the first three years, 3.5 years of biden, i