a college sophomore at southern illinois university in carbondale. last seen leaving a house party, stepping into the bitter cold. >> i was like, where is this kid at? >> what caught your interest? >> the young man that contacted me was in distress. he says it's abnormal. he would not do this. something is wrong. >> monica learn that he came from chicago, six hour drive away. he was the adored middle child of immigrants from india. his dad was a respiratory therapist and his mom a nurse. >> thursday morning, i woke up with this awful feeling of something heavy in my chest. >> when the phone rang, lovely expected to hear his voice. he called home most evenings. it was not her son. it was a police officer. >> he said, well, your son is reported missing by his cousin. i screamed. everything change that moment. everything changed. >> lovely and her husband drove to carbondale and met their daughter at pravin's student apartment. there was no sign of her boy. >> my parents were mentally out of it. it was so hard. i felt i had to set up because it was my b

and so i celebrated juneteenth, but we had always done that in carbondale anyway, but i made i made a cake. and i made red hibiscus tea. and we had a wonderful time and had a barbecue and all that. thank you. that's amazing. thank you so much. you've let us know the importance of history her story and we've learned so much in the in the sessions in the conference about revisioning reframing reshaping remembering and things that are so different but it really comes down to our stories and histories. i was wondering about the role of texas the culture of texas that a lot. us think about is maybe texas rangers and the and the role of just that kind of oppressive in situation there where you can almost do anything and get caught and punish the punishment was just kind of legendary for because you can get they can get away with it with the rangers the role of the rangers that i even heard anecdotally the sign was the sign of the original sign of the clan. i don't know if that's a correct or not, but in looking at the culture of texas and black people and how you've been able to sustain the

and cape gerardo and near carbondale. todd, i'm cure chris for you. how does one prepare for two different versions of their opponent fine question and welcome back to the region. >> i think that you can prepare for donald trump to be interrupting you. i think you can pay are for donald trump to go a little over, but muted eclipse on certainly did help in the last debate. so i think if you're biden, you just go and prepare with your strengths. i've always told my do 18 that we shouldn't worry about the opponent strengths. we should always debate to our own strengths. so that's what i would do. i wouldn't worry as much about trump, but i wouldn't go back and know exactly what he usually does either you are the knower of all things debate. you've been doing this for a long time. >> can you discuss what is a pitfall for incumbents in their very first debate? i'm glad you asked that because i've actually talked about that before. the incumbents usually have a poor debate because they haven't been practicing. so you're incumbent president four years ago wa

don't forget all over the world are present smacked her imprisons carbondale's governmental institutionsently insane asylum's they're all being emptied o out. and i don't blame them. and now the leaders, and soma -- at the bill with them, i dealt with a very nicely i said you don't behave governor going to give you any of the money we pay them so much money and they do nothing, get stolen all over the place. but i had a lot of things we want to bring -- i was told that for years obama couldn't get anybody out. we suffered with ms-13 by the thousands and thousands, that killed people, that correct two young girls, corp. in long island, up to be sick ms-13 monsters and we can get them out of our country and i came back and said why and they said they won't take them back to macon duress going to take a look at honduras and any one of the -- mexico to a certain extent, mexico a little bit less. but we have countries all over south america, countries all over the world i wouldn't take them back. but in the case of the four countries i said here's what we do, el salvador is an example, very t

boris let's get some analysis now from debate expert and professor at southern illinois university carbondale, todd graham todd, thanks so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us what do you make of the very different approaches to debate prep from these candidates this, was not a surprise that donald trump is not going through official debate prep because he's always sort of been that way both in 2016, and 2020 in fact it might desk point features advantage to not try something different. because the only thing lead that he got out of debate prep in 2020 was totally so that didn't work out. his first debate was terrible. so i think him just kinda doing what makes him feel comfortable as good. but if i were coaching them, i would be more on the biden team of actually practicing, talking about policy issues. what will trump say, et cetera. so i think i give the advantage in preparation to biden one thing you have to remember, it's neither so one of them have debated in this cycle. so it's been four years since either one of debated and every time we see a debater who hasn't a president