with some key ipcc terminology.tection quote the process of demonstrating climate or system affected by lite mate has changed in statistical providing a reason for that change, identified change is detected in observations if it's likelihood of occurrence by chance due to internal variability is determined to be small. attribution. quote, the process of evaluating the relative contributions of multiple causal factors to a change or event with an assessment of third, drought. periods of time with substantially below average moisture conditions usually covering large areas during limitations and water availability resulting in impacts for various components of natural systems in economic sectors. it is more challenging to achieve detection than say hurricanes or tornadoes because drought can be defined and measured in many different ways of significant natural climate vulnerability. impacts is even more challenging. it is more easy to identify drought trends in various places that are the result of internal variabilit

if you think you've just denied the ipcc , yet you people have not ipcc, yet you people have not deniedu've misrepresented them. >> you've misrepresented them. >> how have i misrepresented? i don't think he has, and he wouldn't be allowed to. we'd scrutinise that. he's giving you data, right? yeah. so you won't debate. so you've just thrown away a report from the climate department, the climate group, who look after and talk about climate within this country. >> i encourage anyone away, anyone at home, look up ipcc increased flooding. you can make your own mind up. >> let me explain how that happens. >> no, let me explain. new oil and gas is an existential threat to the people in this country. it means social collapse. it means no fires. >> it means none of those things. >> and why does it mean that? sorry. why does it mean that? i'm not seeing why you're saying that? why does it mean that i think if you don't have oil and gas, it means those things. >> okay, so as groups like the ipcc say, world climate scientist opinion is firmly onside, that as we pump more carbon into the atmosphere

that was the ipcc level where they said we don't need to pass that 12 months in a row. watch this summer, you watch the catastrophes going around the globe and, and by the way, in terms of the movement of this, i think and i pick it up on on henry's point about we it's the right direction. i think the labour party more or less got it wrong. i want them to go faster. but they're, they're they're, you know, they're pulled back a little bit now you want them to hold on. >> you want them to go faster. but that's not possible because the infrastructure isn't there. and again i come back to claire coutinho's point is that as much as if you really believe in net zero and you think that is the way forward, then you have to acknowledge that in order to get there, you have to have the infrastructure in place, which it isn't there now. so i'm wondering if claire is right that actually we will we won't be able to harness the energy if we get rid of our current sources too quickly that we won't be able to harness the energy, norman baker well, look, i mean, we've just had a couple o