but you don't need to, like, you know, go full wim hof.er. 90s. >> even that's not good for you. it says 59 degrees or 15 c. >> yeah, but i can't afford my heating bills, so i've had to start doing this. not for the health implications, i just can't afford it. but you get a lot of people who are. they want the attention. they'll come up with some fake thing. they'll deny science. they'll say that they know what's healthy for you, and somehow they get booked on headliners anyway. so i have a little bit of sympathy for him because, you know, he's carved out a little bit of a, you know, he's created quite a profile out of a fairly straightforward, some would say, of something that doesn't work. >> people , it doesn't work. he's >> people, it doesn't work. he's got all these young kids following him to have such a narrow focus. >> if you want to make it. yes. haven't you. yes we've got time for one last mini story. 20s on this, steve. the daily mail, biden family finances. >> i'll try and make it quick. then they've been using their delaware h