and our guest is the first deputy chairman of the bank of russia olga nikolaevna skarobogatova. payment system, which, by the way, no one believed in either, and with what difficulty and creaking it was launched, we are now de facto so accustomed to it that it stands on a par with... general global payment systems, card systems, here the role of the central bank is, let’s say, supportive, regulating, and if we are talking about such things, we will now talk in detail, like a digital ruble, like a single qr code, to what extent you receive comments from market participants here, that the central bank wants to become the main bank, that is why is all this, and how will we feel in this paradigm? you know, in general, the attitude of market participants is very different and , by the way, you will remember the map as an example. at the beginning of the journey, well, in addition to skepticism that it was impossible to do this in the time frame in which we did it, and there was also skepticism, and why is this necessary in general, cards of international payment systems work perfectl