ben godwin is head of a novice, as a prism is a strategic intelligence advisory firm, specializing in central asia. and he's joining us from london. thank you very much . indeed from being with us a few statements that were coming out from chinese presidency engine paying in the run up to they they are, they leased the opening of the, the, the conference he talks about the needs to maintain stability and smoothness of industrial supply chains. he also talks to about resisting external interference and from being firmly in support of one another. to a certain extent, these are all fairly unadorned statements, which one would expect from a leader attending this. what do you think china is actually hoping to get out of this meeting? yeah, i think you're absolutely right. i think one of the main issues the showing i cooperation organization is it doesn't really have a clear mandate of what it's supposed to do. because it's such a diverse group just in the room, i just, i just don't have enough di, stop from countries that do have quite significant differences between each other. it is ver

ben wallace wrote. well, all of this is exactly what hitler said over the sudetenland . the sudetenland. >> oh, come on, come on. >> all of this is exactly what he said. >> we're into godwin'sw now, where we're going. >> just one adjustment. it's just one adjustment. it's what they would always say. we just need to make this one adjustment. we're worried about german speakers in czechoslovakia. we just need to sort them out. come over. mr chamberlain. every time the piece of paper signed the piece of paper , we agree it will. of paper, we agree it will. every time there's a territorial dispute, of course, one at a time. next one. and it's not every time, every time there's a territorial dispute . territorial dispute. >> people will always depict that particular dictator, whoever is at the time, whether it was i'm backing the arguments or whatever the next hitler. >> now you are literally time gentlemen are the same words that were used to justify hitler's stance. is it not the parallels are so close here. i think you are literally using those words when you consider the power and the might of the german military in the 1930s, and the manner in which they were able, and the