political commentator joe phillips and former deputy leader of reform uk ben habib alongside me.w. talking about the speaker systems, and pubuc about the speaker systems, and public shaming. francis says bfing public shaming. francis says bring bring back the stocks, other people say, what about chucking rotten tomatoes at people? i'm not sure i'd go that far or gravy. >> i think we put them in stocks and chuck gravy at them. >> i just think there are too many people in society that have no shame when it comes to behaving appallingly . did you behaving appallingly. did you see that fella? i think it was greggs or something the other day. he's just emptying fridge loads of food into carrier bags. it don't care who sees him. he don't care about getting into trouble. i think it's appalling. i'd love to be a store detective for a day because i would. i'd get my speaker system. i'd make the announcements. you on aisle seven? i can see what you're doing. you're being filmed. but maybe i'm going too far. rob says. michelle, you do realise that in north korea they have the kind of speaker

i still have the wonderful clare muldoon and joe phillips with me. has she? clare this is fairly strong interview in the telegraph today. tories deserve to lose. well, they did and they did. i mean, it's not rocket science, is it? and she doesn't need to be sherlock holmes nor doctor watson to investigate why it happened. they imploded publicly by themselves. it was the backbenchers that actually were trying to hold the party together. i don't think the question is whether or not suella braverman will enter the fray and add her hat into the mix to become the leader of the conservatives. as far as i'm concerned, at the moment, it's a bit of a poisoned chalice because they've got no direction at the moment. and the question is, however , will she join is, however, will she join reform? and from what i heard her say, physically on the tv andindeed her say, physically on the tv and indeed what she's written , i and indeed what she's written, i actually think that's there's a bigger gain there for her. and indeed reform if she were to join reform than tak

we'll hear from joe manchin and congressman dean phillips.he co-chair of president biden's re-election campaign cedric richmond will join us. and what more could the secret service have done more. we'll check in with the chairman of the house intelligence committee ohio republican mike turner. >>> finally we'll take a deeper look at what a potential trump second term could mean for america and the world. it is all just ahead on "face the nation". ♪ ♪ >>> good morning and welcome to "face the nation." as we start a new week here in washington, the country is still making sense of the tumultuous moment that we're in. on monday, just two days after donald trump survived an assassination attempt at a pennsylvania rally, a federal judge in florida dismissed the charges brought by jack smith for trump's mishandling of classified documents. those counts have been widely viewed as the most serious charges out of all of the felony counts he faced in federal and state courts. smith plans to appeal. that same day the republican national convention kicke

of course, he eventually had to drop out because joe got so many more delegates. i think dean phillipsyou supported him. but he was right. and he is owed an apology by a lot of people in the mainstream media and the democratic party because he was saying joe biden of 2024 is not the same guy who debated andrew yang. >> i'm so glad that you raised that dean phillips staked his career and so many people talk pot shots at him and now he has been proven right. i hope that people recognize the sacrifices that dean made to make his case that now millions of americans can see to be true with our own eyes. dean stood up for his principles if the face of his party and now there are many other people that are going to be joining him after the fact. i wish that this had come out five, six months earlier. >> steve: no kidding. i think there are a lot of democrats who feel exactly the same way as you, andrew. ultimately though, let's fast-forward to the convention. is joe biden going to be their nominee? your nominee? >> i think it's going to be an open convention. i think you're going to see folks

are nominee and democrats went and voted and even new hampshire where joe biden wasn't on the ballot, he won 4- 1 against dean phillips. new hampshire democrats are a skeptic whole lot and to go in and write joe biden showed the support he had in our party. the decision he made was a generous decision but it was a generous decision to point a path forward into past the church to vice president harris. let's get behind the best qualified person to lead the party in this campaign, a person who has shown her qualifications in her 3 1/2 years as vice president. representative on the world stage. a key part of the achievements of this administration and strong views about the path or would pick let's put the baton in her hand for the next lab. i think it was a courageous decision about the president and a powerful decision about the president. one that plays off this year. >> run, those 36 years ago you made a decision to go to work for joe biden. >> yeah? >> why joe biden? >> to then senator biden but a political consultant who i worked with in massachusetts. john martella who helped run biden's first campaign back in 197

. >> steve: who is owed a an apology is dean phillips, running opposite joe biden. he was saying, dean was saying, this guy is not all there. >> carley: and robert hur and nikki haley said it might be kamala. >> brian: worth saving. another person having a bad week is r.f.k. jr., revelation about the type of animal he eats. >> carley: hes goat. >> brian: looks like a dog, i'm seeing the picture and everything in this article blew up. president trump is on a roll and not just because he is lucky, great legal team and legal strategy and rulings have come his direction, disciplined campaign and candidate knows when your opponent is beating himself up, let him beat himself up. >> carley: what a difference 90 be minutes makes. illegal migrant from el salvador has been indicted of murder and rape of a mother. victor hernandez charged with two counts of murder, rape, sex offense and kidnapping, accused of dragging moran off a hiking path and strangling her to death. he is due in court on july 22nd. dhs reporting 22 illegal immigrants coming from china making it large chart

with us on this very busy news week, we expected to continue seeing newsnight with abby phillip starts right now will joe biden, blake? that's tonight on newsnight good evening. >> i'm abby phillip in new york tonight. the riddell confounding the democratic party. just what exactly does joe biden plan to do? drop out or keep on running new reporting captures the mood and the mindset of a defiant president. angry a donors who want to push him out the door, angry at senators and congressmen, angry nancy pelosi who according to the new york times, he views as an instigator, angry at former president obama, who he sees as a puppet master, that also from the new york times donors are tightening the screws i'm told the democratic donors are sending an unambiguous message that not a penny will flow to biden or even to the candidates down-ballot until things change at the top but look, calling these tea leaves are charitable to tea leaves. it's a riddle wrapped inside of an enigma projected on a rubik's cube is all this public pressure, even working, or is the president just digging in, at least for now? he is d

and even new hampshire, where joe biden was not on the ballot, he won 4-1 against dean phillips. ew hampshire democrats are a skeptical lot, for them to go and write in a joe biden, show the support he had in our party. the decision he made tonight was a generous decision, the decision made on sunday, that was a generous decision, to point a path forward and to pass the torch to vice president harris, and to say let's unite as a party and let's get together behind the best qualified person to lead our party in this campaign. a person who has shown her qualifications in her 3 1/2 years as vice president. who has represented the world stage, who has been a key part of the achievements of this ministration, and who has strong views about a path forward. it lets but the baton in her hand to run the next light. i think it was a courageous decision by the president and a powerful decision by the president, one that i think will pay off this year. >> those 36 years ago when you made a decision to go to work for joe biden, why joe biden? >> well, i got introduced to then senator biden by

it was joe biden by executive order who approved oil drilling in alaska called the willow project, a $2 billion conoco phillips oil drilling project, number one. number two, also, joe biden released oil from the strategic oil reserves, sold it on the market, open market at $90 a barrel. from what i understand, he is replenishing that oil back to the reserve at 70 something dollars a barrel, which means i believe the net a profit of -- i don't know the exact number but it's in the millions of dollars that they made a profit. also, joe biden, because of joe biden's inflation reduction act chips, the chips act, the infrastructure bill, they renamed the midwest the battery belt. they are producing more lithium ion batteries than ever before and the -- from the united states. i just wanted to share those facts with you. biden i believe is probably the most oil friendly presidents, and also renewable energy. i think that is something that people ought to think about. >> heather? >> thanks, that's all true. i can't speak to the batteries, but the willow project and in northern alaska was a big thing, it was a big thi

joe biden was cognitively not decline. they have egg on their face and did not redeem themselves with that press conference. >> john: gillian? >> minus dean phillipsrry, acknowledging how shortsighted they were. so he's a visionary, loser is at&t, allowing their data to be breached. they say almost every single one of their customers was hacked. >> president zelenskyy on his visit to the nato summit in washington came away with a pathway where he joined nato and got antimissile protection. my loser, i would say hunter and his victor who is embraced by trump, don't understand that, but was visiting with vladimir putin who bombed the children's hospital. just terrible. >> john: it is. there's no question about that. that was horrible. thank you very much, we'll see you next week. ♪ ♪ it is friday, which means it's time for notable quotable's. >> look, i would not have picked vice president trump to be vice president, because not qualified to be president. let's start there. >> i am running. i am running. >> i don't care if he's pooped his pants. i don't care if he can't put a sentence together. >> it's up to the president to decide if he's going to

joe biden. you heard me, don't puck the party. dean phillips tries. ut of the party and now upset they have joe biden. this is what you got. yesterday showed that's the guy you nominated. he had a few faux pass, a few flubs but he went for an hour coherent. now you want to upset your own process, the rules you made and want to pick somebody else not because he is mentally ill but because his poll numbers are down. excuse me, that's not the way it works. i don't think, you know, i don't think that president biden is budging. >> julie: i don't think he believes in the polls either and not listening to anyone. hakeem jeffries just sent a letter to his colleagues about a private meeting he had with biden last night. he doesn't expressly back him but does not call for him to step aside either. this is what he writes. on behalf of the house democratic caucus, i requested and was graciously granted a private meeting with president biden. that meeting occurred yesterday evening. in my conversation with president biden, i directly expressed the full heart felt

these democrats that are calling for joe biden to step aside, pass the torch is funded by dean phillips and who else? steve schmidt. and liked by others billionaire class media. it is just manipulation of the press, the media. against the american people, which is horrible, horrible, the people -- the economy is doing great. oil companies are making record profits. we introduce more oil than any country in the world. they are making billions of dollars in profits. this inflation is caused by corporate greed. what you don't the people see? joe biden does not control the oil prices. oh. controls oil prices which inflated the price because of the war in ukraine and russia not being able to produce or put their oil back on the market. there's just so many things inside things that joe biden has been taking care of and helping this world become a better place. tammy: eric mentioned the pac passed the torch. they are scheduled to launch a add asking. to bite to step down from usa today a mysterious new political action committee has spent 36,000 on ads urging the president joe biden to leave

joe manchin and minnesota congressman dean phillips right now are not necessarily surely backing or at least not yet. here's what they said earlier today. listen to this this open, open process right before the convention. and kamala harris, vice president emerges as the nominee. would you be able to support her? >> lot depends what the policies are. i want to see the platform change. >> would you be what i want to see margaret is the president pass the torch term that everybody is using now and then have a mini primary so where does this leave your party, congressman? >> i haven't heard any democrat say that we shouldn't have a process that follows the rules and has consistent with our values. i am throwing my support behind vice president harris because she is the leader that we need to move us forward. i'm excited about her candidacy. i know her leadership. i know what she's had done in the past and i know oh, her vision for the future. and you see a lot of democrats very excited, very energized by her candidacy. we can win with vice president harris and we will win with vice presid

with us on this very busy news week, we expected to continue seeing newsnight with abby phillip starts right now will joe biden, blake? that's

joe sent this letter out? well it was quite obvious for the past year we had dean phillips on the all in podcast and he said, listen, joe biden is in cognitive decline. it's obvious to everybody. and so we live through a charade for a year, maybe more, depending on when you started to notice it. maybe you have parents who've gone through cognitive decline, and this is just elder abuse and a massive coverup by the democratic party. and they didn't run a proper, process. and now they're going to try to do a speed run primary. it's going to be exciting. i think at the end of the day, joe manchin and pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, are going to emerge as two moderates designed to have adults in the room with moderate beliefs who are operationally very good at things like law and order, working class, maybe some credibility on the economy, balancing the budget. they'll feel like clinton moderates. and so i know it's been just an incredibly eventful week. thank god, trump, survived the assassination attempt. and, you know, an inspired choice with jd vance. but this is not the time for the gop, to become, in any way.

point, if you are a democrat opposing joe biden, your strategy is to call the secretary of state of georgia and say, can you find me 11,000 more votes for dean phillips? it's not a strategy. if you are in the pro-democracy coalition, joe biden told you he is not getting out. so unless democrats on capitol hill have a plan to topple the sitting president and the presumptive nominee, your guy is the only shot you have got to be to donald trump right now. your job is to work for joe biden, not against him. the anxiety is real. three out of four people have said, i'm not sure joe biden can do it. head-to-head, i'm looking at a criminal nominee versus an aging nominee. i think the criminal nominee is more dangerous to our democracy than the aging nominee. democrats, that's good enough for you to get behind your guy and allow him to beat donald trump because the joe biden you saw tonight will win in november. >> michelle goldberg and david jolly, thank you both for your time and passions this evening. i appreciated. >>> we have a lot to get through tonight starting with why donald trump's lawyers think he has gotten a get out of jail free card, plus what j

. >> dean phillips, who tried to run against joe biden, was shunned from the party for even speaking up and saying it's time to pass the torch now, i will say if republicans ultimately ended up with donald trump and then he got to the rnc, potentially for letting that happen. if 13, 14 people and then he put his daughter-in-law in place, in charge there and that is what transpired what we really just tried, right? we at least tried and had this conversation 13, 40 people said he's not who should be leading us into this next cycle. we have not won with him at the helm. so at the beginning people understood that they've largely ignored it because he has pushed forward and he as the nominee. but they're not wrong in these polls are telling you what america will have been saying this whole cycle. we do not want this rematch of 2020 and that's been repeated and it feels as though the american people aren't aren't being heard because the big money that is in play here is what's pushing these two old white men in front of our faces. and it feels as though it's not, we're not being heard. an

lewis phillips stocked up on alcohol at trader joe's. >> you're going to participate in the alameda 4th of july parade party. we're actually going to bounce around in different parties, house parties. >> and tomorrow's fireworks show in san francisco starts at 930. it will last about 20 minutes. and as you know, heather, at night the temperatures can drop here in the city. so if you plan on coming out, you may want to bring some layers with you. >> always the best advice i want to go to that party where we're lewis is going. i loved all of the champagne that he got there, okay. betty. so, so obviously i heard some people talking today and they said finally, fireworks shows where we can actually see the fireworks because it's expected to be clear. so what's the best spot to catch the show tomorrow? >> well, certainly the ferry building behind me, but fisherman's wharf will definitely be one of the most popular spots. pier 39, of course, and aquatic park will be open to the public. >> all right. some good viewing spots. all right. thanks so much, betty. appreciate it. well, some 4th of ju

we hope you'll continue to join us going forward cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts now how. much longer can joe biden say there's nothing to see here? >> that's tonight on news good evening. i'm abby philip in new york in moles my first cnn interview with michigan governor gretchen whitmer and her revealing answer on what she thinks joe biden can do to help settle questions about his mental fitness but first tonight, joe biden doesn't have a math problem, at least not yet, but his status as the now and future nominee suddenly looks up in the air again yes, that is a george clooney reference and yes, that is because the hollywood a-lister and democrat fundraise fundraising stud horse for donors is now saying that biden should quit the race. clooney's public position matters but nancy pelosi's matters even more this morning, she says or she would not say clearly a yes to this question of that you would want every single democrat up and down the ballot to say, of course, too do you want him to run i want him to do whatever he decides to do. >> and that's that's the way it is add to that and unwelc

joe biden going to stay on the ticket. let's keep in mind this is not new. dean phillips warned democrats about this. robert kennedy tried to get democrats to rally around someone else and for all the democrats who are now calling for joe biden to step down and not run for re-election, why wait? if the reason you now believe he should not be the nominee is because he is not fit to be president, then why not call on him to resign right now? the democrats aren't going to do this. the reality is they got the candidate they wanted, they got the republican nominee they wanted, they got the debate they wanted, when they wanted it and now they're like oh, my gosh, what are we going to do? >> martha: i want to play this from james clyburn who obviously played a pivotal role in the first time that president biden ran in terms of bolstering support for him in south carolina and it turned the tide and got him the nomination, here's what he's saying now. watch this. >> he should stay in this race. if you're going to have another debate, the preparation for that debate needs to be different. >> i still believe in

let's, let's assume that that other potential nominees include senator joe manchin, who reregistered as a democrat, and congressman phillips and maybe one or two others do you think that would theoretically work no no. it's not going to work. look, this is a decision that is in the hand of 4,000 and some delegates and in all of the discussion that's taking place in the last three weeks since the debate everybody seems to forgotten that they're the deciders okay. there's obviously president obama has to say and the senators, et cetera, they're the deciders and one thing to realize about them, they're all chosen for the fact that they were loyal, very loyal to joe biden i bet you that most of them are large proportion of them have actually met kamala harris because let's face it, one of the things vice presidents do is they go out and they tend to the party faithful. this notion that somehow somebody has got to pick out of the sky. some people to run against somebody else when none of the major candidates talked about for 2028 and talked about for vice president. >> none of them are running. so just to have a have a mix of c

let's, let's assume that that other potential nominees include senator joe manchin, who reregistered as a democrat, and congressman phillipsbe one or two others. do you think that would theoretically work? >> no. >> no. it's not going to work. look, this is a decision that is in the hand of 4,000 and some odd delegates. and in all of the discussion that's taking place in the last three weeks since the debate, everybody seems to have forgotten that they're the deciders okay. there's obviously president obama has to say, and the senators, et cetera, they're the deciders and one thing to realize about them, there are all chosen for the fact that they were loyal, very loyal to joe biden i bet you that most of them or large proportion of them have actually met kamala harris because let's face it, one of the things vice presidents do as they go out and they tend to the party faithful this notion that somehow somebody has got to pick out of the sky some people to run against somebody else when none of the major candidates talked about for 2028 and talked about for vice president. >> none of them are running so, you know, just to

. >> well, there was not much of a real primary, dean phillips did not put up much of a fight and it joeid not get any kind of a test. i mean, this questioning about joe biden's mental acuity and ability and fitness to run a second term well into his 80s, this has not been a question that just popped up last week or two ago weeks ago. it's been looming around the democratic party for a couple of years, but no one really in the democratic party leadership wanted to challenge the assumption that biden would be just fine, that biden would be the most fit, that biden would be the best candidate to put up against trump. and then there was this shock among democratic party leadership and democrats. part of that is also a reflection on the president has not been out there doing regular press events, or first-term president and hasn't been in the last 18 months he has done three and yesterday was number four. obama and bush did a half-dozen each in their reelection year. >> john: he is going to michigan to do a campaign event he will be the latest day he got the endorsement of the uaw in februar

joe manchin, he would get within 5%. for him to say, -- with that win the democratic -- primary? and by the way, dean phillipse the argument with 61% of people saying he's too old, but that was the polling about a year ago and i like dean phillips, he made the argument and it didn't go very far. >> so it is -- i've said many times on the show, despite reporting, predicting, he stepping back today or tomorrow, it is up to joe biden and we have no indication he's changed his mind about plans to move forward. but let's say there are contingency planning all the time in the party as you know and we have seen reports that nancy pelosi told your california delegation recently she would favor a competitive open primary process if joe biden were to step down. again, his choice as the party nominee, saying it would vice president harris his strength. did she say that? were you in the meeting? >> it was conveniently a meeting i miss it. >> that's convenient. >> let me ask you, what do you think? what do you think? it is his choice. he staying in the race currently but if he were to decide, do you think it should be an

we saw 37 and 38, joe manchin is an independent i should say, and, of course, dean phillips, who challenged biden unsuccessfully earlier this year calling on him to pass the torch. other than that, we talk about the leadership statements coming in now, that statement from schumer is so notable because behind-the-scenes, it was schumer, speaker pelosi, hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader of the house, james clyburn, cochair of the biden ur campaign effort who has been talking to him behind-the- scenes at least the first three i mentioned, privately, according to sources, urging him to rethink his decision, one he has made and said time and time again he is staying in the race. obviously, today we saw that change but these are individuals trying to prevent this public escalation of this democratic party infighting we saw him full display, especially at the end of last week at the end of the rnc convention. so i think what is important here is that biden's timing is notable. tomorrow and tuesday the e. senators and house members are to be back on capitol hill. we have heard according to our

so forth 14 million people that voted for joe biden that, was a phony vote anyway, because you had no choice. dean phillips not a legitimate threat, and r.f.k. had to leave the party. so the bigger question is, why -- what happened since hillary won against obama, the democrats are scared to death to let the democratic voters, the primary voters pick a candidate. they refused to let it happen. they want to be the ones. >> ainsley: blm says it's a blatant disregard for democratic principles and unacceptable. we need public participation. >> steve: the "new york times" and barack obama both said when joe announced that he was going to step aside with the re-election, this needs to be an open process. so everybody can see. you know, sunlight is a great disinfect tant, essentially. but, it's not. it is a coronation. kamala harris is going to wind up getting it. yesterday, the dnc, they had a meeting. and they talked about the rules. setting the schedule to formalize the nomination. so here's the rule. the delegate -- the candidates must meet the requirement of having a majority of delegates by july 30th, and i

make sure he would be the nominee and they kept people like dean phillips and rfk from competing to the primary but they held a primary and joeon, he's got the nomination and is going to bequeath the nomination because he earned the delegates. they get it taken away from them because the polls don't look good for them and it's so shocking to me and i think evidence they have for democracy and elections and voters and as you point out, voters are going to have a say in this if they jerk them out and put in somebody else and make them step aside enough kamala harris because they voted according to the process which i think was janky to put it kindly. tomi: my question for you how wild is this convention going to be laboring the primary to get joe biden the nomination and now they're about to break that to get away from them, that's where they are. tomi: do you think this is all part of the plan or is that just me. >> the plan was for trump to be removed that's what they thought would happen. charlie: they thought he was the best shot. tomi: how the cookie crumbles, coming up one new york times columnist wants biden off the 2024

newsnight starts now more honey and less vinegar from joe biden that's tonight on newsnight good evening. >> i'm pamela brown in washington. abby phillip is off. well tonight, if democrats were hoping for death by 213 defections or intimidation by editorial boards, they won't give it the washington post editorial board has now joining the likes of the new york times calling for biden to quit and calling for his closest friends to tell him the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about his electoral prospects. but a source close to joe biden telling me tonight that it would require a lot more for the president to forfeit the democratic nomination beyond lord almighty, as biden puts it now this is all in response to democrats among them nancy pelosi, who have said joe biden needs to decide and decide now about if he's in or out. the quotes from a key biden ally, i spoke to leave little, if any, wiggle room quote, he is decided he is made up. his mind is driving can governors do anything? can senators do anything? my source says, well, maybe but it is a big if and it would require convincing the campaign that polls have just

dean phillips becoming the very latest to join this growing list each and every hour adding to this idea that, yes, joet go he had been a candidate for his party affiliation. he knew it was only a matter of time before democrats around themselves in this circumstance they are now being confronted by president biden should have known or previously known. >> it is time to step aside and turn this over to a new generation. i am encouraging that. >> you will hear a lot of that until he makes that decision. outgoing west virginia senator joe mansion announce he's urging the president to give them a chance by getting out of the race now. chaired by more than three dozen lawmakers. these are the ones were talking about publicly. perhaps there just as many being careful to keep their positions private while giving the president some space to come to his long conclusion. make the call himself. especially over and capitol hill for many of them it is stay the course unless they hear otherwise. >> he is still in this race. he will be a nominee if he stays in the race. i think all of us should look for ways around

phillips for challenging the press and president. >> i think alexa recognizing is that like my men, joe biden is going to write down this whole ticketst about the white house. chad: senate will be kept open to get dumped effect on entered brown and tammy baldwin, fighting chances in the that's only need to win a handful of seeds to flip the house. it is going support for vice president harris manages not a done deal. >> she needs to go out entering people have to support her endo have to be for her and work with her and think she is capable and i think that we have to be very sensitive to the roles of the people who voted for it biden in a here is to get they don't feel disenfranchised sweeter this court is gravity important here is in alexandria ocasio-cortez, expressed concern about the va thing from president biden but now back the vice president and former house majority jim clyburn would rescued president biden in the 2020 primary and he supported the president as early as this morning. but clyburn understands, but mr. >> he knew for long time where i stood with this. i always told him that he had my full support and it would n

joe biden has been running for the last four years. case in point, her chief foreign policy adviser is phillip gordon. who is phillip gordon?ment official under barack obama and was an an integral part in the disasterous iranian nuclear deal which gave them a billion dollars. in the first-hand donald trump reversed. the only thing that changes this, donald trump and maximum pressure campaign that left iran poorer, broker, less influential than anytime in the last 20 years. but the good news to the american people is, we can put our foot back on the throat of the iranian terrorist regime as soon as donald trump gets back in the white house. larry: i reckon so. john ratcliffe, thank you very much, appreciate it. i didn't know about gordon. i forgot about all of that but that is a very important point. same guy, you will have the same results which are not good. anyway, john, thanks ever so much. now we'll switch gears a little bit, and bring back tennessee senator marsha blackburn, great friend of the she, great friend period. senator blackburn big kryptonite down there in nashville, tennessee, which is about the hottest plac

, rfk junior, the other guy got smoked, dean phillips who tried to make the argument many democrats are making now. to your point, bill, i don't remember joeen calling into any msnbc program like this unscheduled or unannounced to essentially say i'm the guy, i am going to win and in that clip you played saying there have been past store eaves where people said i wasn't going to win. i'm the new version of the comeback kid and i will find a way to win. this is very planned. it says to me and i'm curious what juan says, i'm not going down without a fight. >> bill: how do you see it, juan? >> the bottom line for democrats is beating donald trump. picking up on what clay just said. the reality is that this week is so critical that there was no choice for the biden administration but to come out with both barrels flaming to write the letter, go on msnbc. i think we'll see it continue. the argument coming from the biden white house this morning is that the president has spoken with congressional leaders. this is in direct contradiction to the morning newspapers that say that you have six key chairmen in the house talking with hakeem jeffries te

phillips of minnesota joins me. he was the only elected official who ran against joe biden for the 2024 democratic nomination. this is his first national interview since cnn's debate between biden and trump and congressman. i've really really appreciate your time and i remember our conversations when you were running and your reasons for doing that. and now here we are in this tense and sad moment for this country and obviously awaiting an oval office address from the president, the united states, talking about an assassination attempt on his rival what should the president's message be tonight in this moment? >> well, erin, i think the president's great superpower is compassion and empathy. and i expect both of those to be shown loud and clear tonight. i think this is a magnificent opportunity for him for our country even for for former president trump, who i send my thoughts too as well to actually do something that this country needs more than ever. and it's set aside the nonsense stop the insanity, and actually show some compassion and empathy for a country that is really hurting right now, expect to see

joe biden. i spoke to congress in dean phillips yesterday, democrat from minnesota who ran that failed primary campaigninst president biden. it was his first time commenting since the concerns about president biden after the debate. one of his points was president biden's too old. he sent a great job but when need to turn the page and have a new generation of leadership. dean phillips said i tried to have this conversation a year ago, eight months ago. i wanted to have this conversation. that is why i ran. the democratic party completely shut it down. host: why do you think that is? guest: some people did not take dean phillips's candidacy seriously. some folks thought president biden was the best person to take on trump in november. he frequently cites easily person who has beaten donald trump. that's true. it is something the biden campaign has really run with. also, the incumbent clearly wanted to run. if the incumbent wants to run, it is tough to say to the incumbent you shouldn't run. democrats right now are trying to have the conversation that dean phillips and others try to have a year ago, that

dean phillips was never listened to and he was telling the truth about joe biden.cted him. they ush approximated robert kennedy out, too, r.f.k. jr., they did not allow him to engage way he should have been allowed to engage. they are everything they say they are not. it is closed door for most who want the opportunity. they have more weight than the average delegate from a state and county, this is going to be a show. whether they can control it all is a different story, that is what we'll find out. i bank on them doing an,a mazingly good job, even if they don't, i want to be ready for the worst because i want to win. >> todd: secret service director kimberly cheatle expected to testify today on failure leading up to assassination attempt on trump. she never went to the crime scene first hand. this happened a week ago, how has cheatle not been fired already, congressman? >> she should be fired. cheatle is an example of somebody that was worried about quotas, somebody worried about being woke, worried about pronouns and everything, but the job she was supposed to d

validated guys in american politics is dean phillips, my colleague in the house stepped down from a safe democrat seat and said look, we can't go forward with joet going to be the nominee. they worked to kind of shun him because he spoke the truth. people have known this all along. now all of a sudden over the past week post debate it's some revelation. everyone's already known. it's been the worst kept secret in politics. cheryl: i've got patricia mcloafly who has a question. >> do you realistically think your colleagues on the democrat side will do this, given the political vulnerability, the attack against former president trump is that he's a convicted felon. if robert hur hadn't refused to prosecute joe biden because he's an elderly man with a poor memory he would very well be a convicted felon as well. what's your take on this. >> that's a good point. if joe biden wasn't viewed by hur as mentally competent to even face a trial, let's have the tapes. that will bring out a lot of questions. i think the reason the democrats won't praying ranks, it calls into question every executive order he's made, how valid could it be, was he mentally com

joe biden will be the nominee. in town and over the next few days, the president really steps in it, then the calls are growing. if it phillipslooking pretty smart right now. he was basically ostracized and kicked to the curb of the democratic party when they set a long time ago going through the primary process, we can't nominate joe biden again. he can't do for years. if on the ballot in november, down ballot, the republicans are more likely to win the house and more likely to win the senate. these people to speak up those speaking up for coalescing kamala harris. kamala harris was picked by joe biden one person incapable of staging. and she has further to the left. so she has her own liabilities pure the polls are coming out and joe biden has lost points from the debate and kamala harris further behind. so the democrats are in a big time pickle here but this is something of their own doing. they nominate at the wrong guy and should have had a process but the democratic primary voters decide on a different nominee, here they are unless something major happens the next few days were joe biden steps in it, you will be the nom

joe is saying, listen, one, those are good paying jobs in places like pennsylvania. >> our next guest agrees with the latter part, at least. pennsylvania petroleum engineer sarah phillips good morning. i know you worked in oil and gas for 10 years now you hear kamala say she is not going to ban fracking. which kamala harris do you believe? >> absolutely the former kamala harris. that's evidenced by all of the regulations that they have put on my industry. there has been a war on oil and gas. biden started. you know, whenever. >> ainsley: go ahead. >> i'm sorry. whenever she talks about being in tracking, she is ignoring three things. she is ignoring the science, she is ignoring the benefits and she is ignoring the implications behind banning fracking. so, the science the epa has deemed fracking safe since 2016. our shale less permable than the concrete that we dry on every day. we need try draw lick fracking in order to produce natural gas. you have to understand there are three mega national guard fields in the world. one n qatar and two are in west virginia, ohio, and pennsylvania. they would be the third most natural gas producing country in the world if they were t

. >> i'm abby phillip in new york tonight, coping with loss democrats, their reckoning with all five stages of grief all at once after joe biden's debate formats triggered panic tonight, biden delivered a standard but important speech, especially given the context. the subtext of it, that the rumors of him this political death and his mental decline are greatly exaggerated let's remember the fact that nato remains the bulwark of global security did not happen by accident it wasn't inevitable again and again, a critical moments, we chose unity over disunion progress over retreat, freedom over attorney hope over fear again and again, we stood behind our shared vision of a peaceful and prosperous transatlantic community. the president wants and needs to convince voters that they can just watch him like he's always pleaded with them to do and he'll extinguish those existential feelings of dread about his ability to fight and win against donald trump but democrats, well, the party is supposed to unify behind him and yet they are glom they're basically holding awake over on capitol hill funeral vibes was how the mood was descr

joe biden, kamala harris chris obviously together in this administration there were over 100,000 uncommitted, about 20,000 each for marianne williamson and 20,000 for dean phillips does she just i mean, those concerns that folks had about biden, do they not just carry over to harris? how do you see it? >> i don't think it's automatic that we get everybody back but what she does is she gives us a chance to get them back. if she comes to michigan and she addresses those issues about our future. again younger voters so i going to make the difference. i think we sometimes overlook younger voters as we get, we know that generally speaking, they don't participate at the same levels of people say, my age israel policy stay with younger voters. is she different have to differentiate herself. >> i think she's a different person. i think she will have to speak with some clarity on the issue of israel and gaza. i've had my differences with president biden's approach on this, and i've expressed those to him directly. i think that's one of the things people are listening for. i represent a significant arab and muslim population in the few conversations that i've had in the l

. >> i'm abby phillip in new york and tonight, act to democrats are in the middle of a drama that even hollywood might have thought twice before conjuring up. joe biden like it or not, we'll have to make a choice and very soon it is a choice between swimming upstream against the current democrats who say publicly and privately that it's time for him to step aside and putting his considerable pride aside to clear the way for someone else. the inciting incident was that now infamous debate. but now today's cnn poll may have given democrats the permission structure that they were looking for tobacco away. it's a dispiriting data point if you're sitting in delaware, the voters who liked joe biden democrats and lean democratic voters, they say that he should no longer be the main character in the selection now, if you think that would change how the white house is viewing this in their posture maybe but i don't think so. take a look at what they're saying all day long. they have been putting out some of their surrogates to remain defiant, bringing out their most loyal defenders to say things like this. >> president does do a lot of travel. i mean, h

these democrats that are calling for joe biden to step aside, pass the torch is funded by dean phillips and who else? steve schmidt. and liked by others billionaire class media. it is just manipulation of the press, the media. against the american people, which is horrible, horrible, the people -- the economy is doing great. oil companies are making record profits. we introduce more oil than any country in the world. they are making billions of dollars in profits. this inflation is caused by corporate greed. what you don't the people see? joe biden does not control the oil prices. oh. controls oil prices which inflated the price because of the war in ukraine and russia not being able to produce or put their oil back on the market. there's just so many things inside things that joe biden has been taking care of and helping this world become a better place. tammy: eric mentioned the pac passed the torch. they are scheduled to launch a add asking. to bite to step down from usa today a mysterious new political action committee has spent 36,000 on ads urging the president joe biden to leave

these democrats that are calling for joe biden to step aside, pass the torch is funded by dean phillipsnd who else? steve schmidt. and liked by others billionaire class media. it is just manipulation of the press, the media. against the american people, which is horrible, horrible, the people -- the economy is doing great. oil companies are making record profits. we introduce more oil than any country in the world. they are making billions of dollars in profits. this inflation is caused by corporate greed. what you don't the people see? joe biden does not control the oil prices. oh. controls oil prices which inflated the price because of the war in ukraine and russia not being able to produce or put their oil back on the market. there's just so many things inside things that joe biden has been taking care of and helping this world become a better place. tammy: eric mentioned the pac passed the torch. they are scheduled to launch a add asking. to bite to step down from usa today a mysterious new political action committee has spent 36,000 on ads urging the president joe biden to leave th

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phillips 500,000. marianne williamson. uncommitted has more primary votes than her. yet they want to crown her as the nominee and be done with it. >> steve: let's see what happens. joe'se said. this. it really boils down to this. it has to do with his, joe's, overall health and vitality. not anything cognitive but he is a proud guy and if -- his language, it pisss him off that he shustlesz when he walks is it. >> yeah i'm sure it does seasm guy the last three years. this wasn't sudden. they knew about it this whole time. the idea that he was going to serve out four more years is a joke. he was not odds were he wouldn't make it. kamala harris was the nominee now it's official. he wasn't going to serve until 86. look at how he has declined over the last four years. can you imagine how he would be four years from now. >> steve: it was historic. this decision. marc thiessen, thank you very much for joining us live. >> steve: coming up on this very busy monday. talk to democratic activist on the mounting chaos inside the democratic party. that's coming up next. ♪ choice hotels is a family of brands with a hotel for any traveler you want to be. like #1 chef dad, cookin' up

certainty, if joe biden is the nominee and many democrats again, our drawing the same conclusions based upon the data that's coming out after the debate. >> you back to democrat dean phillips against biden. you you are tactic, you're no longer a democrat. you have this sort of a third party. what would you say to democrats who say yeah, but that guy, andrew yang, he's not even one of us. why should we listen to him? >> i ran against donald trump in 2020. i back to dean phillips, who i would say has demonstrated more courage in principle than the vast majority of other members of the democratic congress where he saw what we're seeing right now months ago back when there was a primary and he stepped up within the party risked his career and made the case that joe biden is not the right nominee, two-phase donald trump in november based in large part, upon his advancing age and the fact that his best days are behind him. how many other members are saying the exact same thing right now, briana, i am so glad that dean phillips stepped up. i was proud to support him and he has been proven 100% correct. he's a man of principle encouraged and i hope other members of the party take