roberts' reads of the majority, sotomayor was watching and kavanaugh and ketanji brown jackson was looking away from colleagues toward the gallery, the chair slightly turned away from other members and roberts gave seven reasons why the court made the decision it did, including what roberts called a lack of precedent and issues that are quite difficult. says that lower courts didn't provide the above guidance, and the associate justice sonja sotomayor's strong powerful dissent, this is nbc's reporting, she minced no words about today's opinion, quote, it makes a mockery of our system of government. she went on to say, quote, the court gives former president trump all of the immunity he asked for and more, end quote. history matters. right? she said rhetorically, quote, except here. she took a quick second to look up from the pages she was reading from to glance at her colleagues. and she goes on to report that if this particular indictment of former president trump doesn't reach the level of a prosecutorial offense, she said this, quote, it is hard to imagine what prosecution ever would. t

in her dissent, justice ketanji brown jackson wrote departing from the traditional model of individualability, the majority has concocted something entirely different, a presidential accountability model that creates immunity and exemption from criminal law, applicable only to the most powerful official in our government. the ruling adds an obstacle for a trial jack smith planned to begin months ago. joining me now, professor of history at rice. jennifer palmieri, former communications director for hillary for america and cohost of msnbc's "how to win 2024" podcast. i want to look back for a moment, doug, about what donald trump said about presidential immunity while on the campaign trail earlier this year. >> you have to give a president immunity, otherwise take a look at harry truman, he wouldn't have done -- if you think hiroshima, not a nice act but did end the second world war, probably, nagasaki, i don't want to do that because my opponents will indict me! >> i wonder what you think this ruling signals about how donald trump might approach a second term. >> well, it's deeply dish

justice ketanji brown jackson was right. the six conservative justices have given donald trump carte blanche to unleash his worst instincts if he returns to the white house with no consequences whatsoever. in one of the most radical court rulings in our nation's history. plus the systematic dismantling of the 20th century by this court that does not believe that the constitution is a living document and is dead set on returning us to the 19th century, when they believe america was great. >>> also tonight, the threats ahead from republicans and the court as we mark exactly 60 years since president lyndon johnson signed the civil rights act of 1964. and we begin tonight with reality, which is sinking in in a really big way. in the past week since the debate we've been treated to a flood of newspaper op-eds led by the "new york times" of course telling joe biden what to do, pundits telling him what to do, democrats hand wringing behind the scenes and leaking the hand wringing to politico and the "times" so donors can tell joe b

no, no, from ketanji brown, jackson, but i wanted to start with justice sotomayor and i believe i'm going to pull up just for the control room the first justice sotomayor never in the history. so this is what she said, never in the history of our republic has a president had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law moving forward, however, all former president's will be cloaked in such immunity if the occupant occupant of that office misuses official power or a personal gain the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop with fear of for our democracy. i dissent. >> it's a very strong statement by justice sotomayor and it's understandable from the context of how broad the majority seems to interpret immunity in this case they, the majority doesn't just say that the former president is immune for official acts, which it makes very clear. >> it also really broadens it out and there's a part that i want to point to in the opinion where it says the immunity we've recogniz

i think what we saw with the ketanji brown jackson confirmation hearings is that no matter how qualifiedyou are, you're going to be attacked as a black woman going up for a high position. but i but what what we're going to see and what i think we're starting to see is that the folks who support vice president harris are activated and are actively online, pushing back against those tropes. >> look, we don't have a crystal ball, but how might harris run influence the future of women and minority candidates in american politics? i'm wondering if you think maybe is it a win whether she wins or loses. >> it is. but of course it'll be a much different win if she's successful. just as barack obama inspired many young black men to decide to go into elected offic, if a black woman, a south asian woman, is elected president, that will in turn inspire all sorts of young women of color to pursue those careers in a way that being the nominee but not winning just won't. there's something about becoming president and becoming the leader of the free world that's very inspiring indeed. >> doctor melissa

justice ketanji brown, jackson, our newest member of the court. agree that they should get rid of get rid of this january order that suddenly let idaho enforce its ban across the board. but i don't want to vote too. dismiss this. so in the end, we just have those five key justices across ideological majority to do this. but i have to say phil, this case is coming back because this is still a major conflict out in the states between states that have enforce these very strict bans. only when with exemptions only to prevent the death of a woman as opposed to what the biden administration is saying is that in certainly certain emergency situations to protect a woman's health not just to avoid death. abortion should be able to occur. >> you talk about ketanji brown jackson is role here, talking about amy coney barrett this was a fascinating term for what her role is going to be in this court going forward. >> that's so true. in fact, she was the one who really pressured her some conservative brethren here toward this it's missile. but phil, you're righ

now, justice ketanji brown jackson was one of those who dissented. one of those who opposed today's ruling. she's worried immunity opens a pandora's box. here she is during the argument phase of the case. phase of the case back in april, trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office into, you know, the seat of criminal activity in this country. those arguing against presidential immunity of any sort point out the idea that we're all equal under the law, that america did not have a leader who sat superior to all others was fundamental to the founding fathers, justice sotomayor said. as of today, quote, the president is a king above the law. here's history. professor nolan higdon. yeah, that's true. that's the whole basis of the american system of checks. and balances. no particular branch is able to get too much power and all are held accountable to each other, today's rulings certainly complicated that perspective that we've held for centuries in this country. now, shortly after the decision was announced, trump wrote on

. >> i want to read justice brown -- justice ketanji brown jackson's, the conclusion of her opinion. says the majority of my colleagues seem to have put their trust in our court's ability to prevent presidents from becoming kings through case-by-case application of the indeterminate standards of their new presidential accountability paradigm. i fear that they are wrong, but for all of our sakes, i hope that they are right. in the meantime, because the risks and power the court has now assumed are intolerable, unwarranted, and plainly antithetical to bedrock constitutional norms, i dissent . decent language doesn't get stronger than that. >> well, the language couldn't get stronger because it deserves to be enormously strong. that language was uttered three days before independence day and several days we will celebrate the nation's survival of a revolution against kings and queens. we had a revolution so that we wouldn't have a king. now, the supreme court says that is what we are giving you. i do not think we should accept that but it seems to me that all that does is basically put

thank you for appointing as you promise before elected a black woman ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. it changed america. i know, i got to testify on her behalf. but lastly, let me say it not only thank you to you, but thank you for keeping your word and making a female in your vice president. i am so honored i am almost emotional to be able to say we thank you for giving us vice president kamala harris. we state thank you vice president and we stand with you the largest caucus in the congress, we stand for you because we know that you will continue to represent us to whether it is domestic or whether it is in foreign lands. and let us set the record straight, she has visited some 20 countries met with more than 150 national leaders. she is ready, she is set and prepared to go. we know she leads the fight for women with women's reproductive rights. just watch her. when the child looks up to her face and she bends down to touch them, that is our future. she is the bending down and lifting up. so today i say thank you america we stand with vice president kamala harris who will be

thank you for pointing as you promised before elected, a black woman, ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. it changed america. i know. i got to testify on her behalf. but lastly, let me say not only thank you to you, but thank you for keeping your word and making a female your vice president. i am so honored i'm almost emotional to be able to say we thank you for giving us vice president kamala harris. we say thank you vice president and we stand with you the largest caucus in the congress. >> two weeks ago, president biden met with the congressional black caucus to explain how he would continue his campaign in the face of demands he end his candidacy. joyce beatty described that meeting then. >> it was a discussion for him to make his commitment. out line his future plans. and that we want to be engaged and included with him. it was a very good meeting. it was substantiative. he responded well. he was comfortable and relaxed and he was on point. we saw the old joe biden. he addressed the issue and said as he has said openly the 90- minute debate, it was a mistake. he didn't do a go

this is very real phenomenon people are living with just as we all saw with ketanji brown jackson during her hear. >> here's the thing, adam kinzinger pointed out, republican adam kinzinger what makes is so ugly is it reveals a truth clearly broadly held in republican circles. that white men by definition when they have a job earned it and deserved it, and anybody but a white man is a dei hire, meaning it was handed to them without them deserving it or without them earning it. george w. bush became president because his father was president. john f. kennedy in many ways his political rise was because his father paid for it, paid for a film about his service to be made about world war ii. donald trump became popular because he was on "the apprentice." the reality is that in order for -- if vice president kamala harris becomes president, she'll become president because she was a d.a. who then got elected to be the attorney general in the largest state in the country, which could be its own country, and where that was not done because the state of california is overwhelmingly black. it's on

you obviously came into a historic place with a supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson in so many other people so this was monumental for you all to come and put delta on this pedestal. we know for as long as we can remember voting rights democracy loss of social issues have been on the plate and frankly it's what helps catalyze the president to his role. it's the work of delta an african american women to solidify the presidency. with that being said what would you say is the value of black women specifically and foreign-policy and national security and how can we continue to elevate black women in this space? >> thank you for saying that because we do have to update it. i was accepted as an honorary member delta. not only is it a wonderful organization being around all these other black women i've had an opportunity to do a number of activities. it really doesn't still just the power of black women working together and deltas or on the supreme court ketanji jackson getting in her position as well and very supportive of these causes voting rights as you said and instrumental in t

justice ketanji brown jackson acknowledged the president may have the authority to remove the attorneyfor example, the question here is if the president has the option to remove the attorney general by, say, poisoning him to death? more from "politico", the biggest challenge for a president ordering an assassination would be finding military personnel willing to carry out the order, legal experts explained. the president himself would have the protection of immunity but others involved would remain vulnerable to prosecution because the supreme court's decision doesn't make the underlying act legal. if they were given an illegal order by the president or by someone who was directly answering to the president, they may be in a position they are subject to court maestro court-martial at either direction, that is according to a professor of national security law at the university of pennsylvania. a lawless president, however, could get around that problem by promising to pardon anyone who carried out his orders. it is not a likely scenario for former president donald trump. he is already c

in a scathing dissent signed by justices elena kagan and ketanji brown jackson, justice sonia sotomayor wrote -- "never in the history of our republic has a president had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. moving forward, however, all former presidents will be cloaked in such immunity." donald trump celebrated the ruling on social media, writing "big win for our constitution and democracy. proud to be an american." president biden denounced the ruling in a five-minute speech from the white house. pres. biden: this nation was founded on the principle that there are no kings in america. each of us is equal before the law. no one is above the law. not even the president of the united states. but today supreme court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally change. amy: monday's landmark ruling follows a series of high-profile corruption scandals at supreme court and after justices samuel alito and clarence thomas refused to recuse themselves from the case over conflicts of inter

i think justice ketanji brown jackson told us there is no silver lining. this is not justice, this is not a win and that is 100% true. the interesting thing is known in, not only outright forum shopping, but there are so many groups being formed to attack principles like affirmative. like reproductive rights. these are not real organizations. these are shell corporations. not-for-profit corporations that don't represent actual people. i think it was good that there was a recognition of that emptiness of this organization. as the same for ffa, students for fair admissions that ended affirmative action. all of those well-funded extreme conservative organizations that are attacking our rights left and right. it was interesting that this court at least saw through that. but this is just a temporary fix. you have someone like justice thomas, yes, i'm bringing them up again -- [laughter] who went all the way to the other side and tried to end associational standing altogether for legitimate organizations that represent people and have been litigating for rights

ketanji brown jackson sided with the conservative majority. amy coney barrett wrote a dissent.a venerable one that ought to be respected. >> to the point earlier you can't expect everyone to read the opinion. unfortunately it is all the worse when it is a congressperson that doesn't and twist the meaning. you are filling in for jesse watters tonight and you have an exciting interview coming up with speaker johnson. what can we expect on that? >> at 8:00 p.m. eastern time i will get the exclusive reaction of the house speaker mike johnson on the immunity decision. not only that the house judiciary committee said they are suing the biden administration to get the audio that they have that merrick garland has of her interview. kate kellogg has a story about donald trump when he answered the phone at 3:00 a.m. we will compare and contrast commanders in chief. >> i will be glued to the screen tonight at 8:00 p.m. on fox news. thank you for watching us. when you can't watch us live, don't forget to dvr the show and now here are our friends at "america reports."

chutkan does with it, and whether she can figure out the indeterminate standards that justices ketanji brown jackson warned of. there's chapters to be written. one problem, though, katy is that these chapters aren't going to be written for quite some time, and if mr. trump becomes president, perhaps not at all. >> it's over, he dismisses these cases, including the classified documents says. thank you for starting us off, and thank you for coming in and trying to parse through what is just a significant and momentous day in our history. >>> coming up, donald trump is saying today's scotus decision, quote, should end all of the other court cases against him. what's the ripple effect. >>> plus, what president biden's family urged him to do over the weekend following his disaster of a debate performance last night. we're back in 90 seconds. or last week, i should say. , i y (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (aaron) so whatever's next... we're cooking with fire. (vo) switch to the partner businesses rely on. [introspective music] recip

legislation related to the american rescue plan, the bipartisan infrastructure legislation, when ketanji brown jackson and was confirmed to the supreme court, and the inflation reduction at. we didn't hear complaints about his age stopping him from getting these historic is done, and i appreciate the wisdom. we saw him stand up and give all of us an hour-long press conference, following the nato summit. and i don't know of anybody else who could have done that the way that joe biden did it. so i appreciate, again, the fact we can agree to disagree. joe biden is still our nominee and we need to make sure he is as strong as possible going into november. >> one of the pieces that's been reported, that's frustration to campaign advisers, is about the response from donors. is been very -- various reports but as i noted, i am skeptical of anonymous sources suggesting money is drying up. for people out there worried about that, what is the status of what funding is coming in and what resources the campaign has at this point in time? >> what i do know is that small donor -- small dollars are still coming into

today justice sotomayor and also justice ketanji brown jackson each struck the word respectfully and just wrote dissent. that is the kind of reaction we're seeing from legal scholars and experts everywhere today. npr's veteran legal correspondent nina totenberg telling us moments ago that legal observers and experts describing what she described as both sides of the aisle meaning both sides of the ideological number line were in her words astonished by how radical this ruling was today. sherrilynn ifill, she responded to the ruling today by saying. this she said, quote, today's decision in trump versus the united states is a grotesque and hideous distortion of the rule of law by a majority of the highest court of the most powerful democracy in the world. the national and global implications of upending this core principle of democracy is potentially catastrophic national and global implications. catastrophic. joining us now is sherrilynn ifill. she is now the vernon e. jordan jr. distinguished chair and civil rights at howard law school. ms. ifill, it makes me happy to see your face.

sotomayor railed against the majority in a scathing dissent, joined by justices elena kagan and ketanji brown jackson, she wrote, in every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law. she ended her dissent with fear for our democracy. i dissent, and just moments ago, again, we heard from president biden fundamentally new principle. >> and it's a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the supreme court of the united states. the only limits will be self-imposed by the president alone. >> the last hour, we talked with legal expert jessica levinson on the wide reaching impact of today's decision. >> decades ago, in a case involving president nixon, the court said there's absolute immunity from civil liability when it comes to a president engaging in official acts. we didn't have an answer until this morning. when it comes to criminal liability, the court did, in my view, put their thumb on the scale, saying that there are interactions that then president trump had with then vice president pence saying, basically, u

i'd like to express the society's gratitude this evening to justice ketanji brown jackson. this is the first event that we've had the privilege of having her participate with the society and she's doing double duty tonight. first, she'll be at home. she'll be a host and also a participant. after judge gergel speaks, she'll join him in a conversation and discuss brown versus board of education as i suspect you all know, this is a pretty busy time for the for the justices of the court. so we we thank her for taking the time away from her many duties. and we're honored by her presence. it is cliche to say someone needs no introduction, but it is absolutely true in this context. nonetheless, my job is to introduce the introducer. so i will fulfill my responsibilities. justice jackson was born in washington on september 14, 1970. it's interesting that i at the same date that not the exact date, but the same day that the judge, constance baker, was born. most of you probably know about the judge. she was the first black woman to argue in the united states supreme court. first bla

very real phenomenon the people are dealing with, just like what weu also happened to justice ketanji brown jacksonut, do not get mired down in it. >> here's the thing, so adam e kinzinger wanted out. republican, congressman adam kinzinger that what makes this so ugly is it a reveals a truth that is clearly broadly held within republican circles. that white men, by definition, when they have a job, earned it and deserve it and anybody but a white man is a dei hire meaning it was handed to them without them do serving it or earning it. george w. bush became president because his father was president. john f. kennedy, in many ways, a his political rise was because i his father paid for it. paid for a film to be made ma about his service in world war ii to make and more popular. donald trump became president because he was on the ca apprentice. >> joy, the tea is hot. >> the reality is that in order for a vice president kamala harris becomes president, she will become president because she was a d.a. who then got elected to be the attorney general in a, the largest state in the country, rg which could

. >> the honorable ketanji brown jackson. >> reporter: he appointed the first black woman to the supremenfrastructure bill into law. >> bravo. >> reporter: however, a chaotic withdrawal of u.s. forces from afghanistan, coupled with inflation concerns and doubts about his comparatively lenient border policies yielded unrelenting low approval ratings. throughout his bid for reelection, biden fought hard and spent tens of millions of dollars just to stay tied in the polls with former president trump. >> the, we, with the covid, excuse me, with -- >> reporter: after what many in his campaign regarded as a disastrous debate performance, after ignoring pressure to drop out, biden announced his exit from the race. he frequently embraced optimism for america, and at times, it sounded like his own internal fight against those who bet against him. >> we are the united states of america, and there's nothing, nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. and let's stay together. god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. >> reporter: biden, in the end, was persuaded to preserve his leg

i think what we saw with the ketanji brown jackson confirmation hearings is that no matter how qualified going to be attacked as a black woman going up for a high position. but what what we're going to see and what i think we're starting to see, is that the folks who support vice president harris are activated and are actively online, pushing back against those tropes. >> president biden returned to the white house today. he's tested negative for covid and has his symptoms have resolved. we're told that's according to his doctor. he was diagnosed with covid last wednesday while campaigning in las vegas. tomorrow, president biden will address the nation. his first speech after announcing that he would step away from the presidential race. it is tomorrow at 5:00. we'll carry it live for you right here on abc seven. >> the secret service has recommended donald trump's campaign stop holding rallies outdoors following the assassination attempt ten days ago in pennsylvania. while there are rallies planned in the coming days, none is scheduled to be held outdoors. trump's running mate, j.d. van

like we saw with justice ketanji brown jackson.and not get mired down in it. >> adam kinzinger pointed out, republican congressman adam kinzinger, that what makes this so ugly as it reveals a truth that is broadly held within hi republican circles. that white men by definition when they have a job earned it and deserve it and anyone but a white man is a dei hire, meaning it was handed to them without them earning it. george w. bush became president because his father was president. john f. kennedy in e many ways his political rise was because his father paid for it. s paid for a film to be made about his service in world war ii to make them more popular. donald trump became president because he was on the apprentice. ce the reality is, if vice president kamala harris becomes president, she will become l president because she was a d.a. who got elected to be the attorney general in the largest state in the country, which could be its own country and where that was not done because the state of california is overwhelmingly black, it

sotomayor railed against the majority in a scathing dissent, joined by justices elena kagan and ketanji brown jackson. she wrote, quote, in every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law. she ended her dissent with fear for our democracy. >> i dissent, and president biden's campaign released a statement, writing in part, trump is already running for president as a convicted felon for the very same reason he sat idly by while the mob violently attacked the capitol. he thinks he's above the law and is willing to do anything to gain and hold on to power for himself. >> all right. to get more insight into this decision, we're joined by jessica levinson, law professor at loyola marymount university. jessica, always appreciate the time. broad strokes here. how significant is this decision in the history of this court? >> well, this is a significant decision. i'm going to be teaching this decision in constitutional law. it's going to be in textbooks. this is a question that was unanswered by the court, because we've never been here before. we had an answer as to civil liability decad

justice ketanji brown jackson saying the question here is whether the president has the option to remove the attorney general by, say, poisoning him to death. neal, you kind of said it tongue in cheek, yet, we all were stunned when he made that, you know, kind of stood by that proposition, right, in oral arguments, and yet now the majority's saying that if the president says it falls within the purview of his official acts, does he now legally and officially say i can commit murder? >> it's unfathomable that the supreme court which has been such a -- body, chief justice john marshall, justice thurgood marshall, people like that are issuing a decision like this, that allows for such things, calling them official acts. and that's why i think you saw justice sotomayor on the very next mage right after the part you showed, her very last lines are with fear for our democracy i dissent. and i can tell you, of 51 cases there, i've been involved in hundreds more than that, i've never seen language like this in a supreme court opinion or dissent. there is something really dangerous going on here,

no, 34,000 black women are information who helped get her elected in 2020, who helped get ketanji brown jackson, seats secured on the supreme court and will help elect the first black president, female black president in the united states. so there are people who read polls and then there are people who read people and in a moment like this, the polls are not going to be able to harness what is actually happening in our communities, in our culture. and it's not going to be an easy fight, but it's a fight pick folks are ready to have, i mean, bakari moment mentum is on her side in the way that she's describing right now. but there are those who are still naysayers who are going to look at this. and number one, point out that space between he is out and the next hex that he endorsed her and collective breaths being whole held. the other part of it, people saying, well, hold on a second. >> i mean it's a coronation. this is not a competitive process. what do you say to those people well, it's an open primary that's about over okay. >> i mean, in part of that is because of the work that they kamala

contra con el bloque de las magistradas consideradas de mÁs tendencia liberal elena caigan, ketanji, brown, jacksono termine la magistrada sotomayor de leer su texto, los magistrados se van de vacaciones. no volverÁn hasta washington hasta octubre, cuando inicia su prÓximo periodo de sesiones. una corte suprema, que sabemos tiene mayorÍa conservadora, pero tambiÉn hay que decirlo, que fue bastante beneficiosa con el expresidente trump en los cargos que lo involucraban. recordemos en marzo el caso de las boletas de colorado. fallaron a favor de que se mantuviera al expresidente trump en la boleta de colorado y hoy en este caso, estÁn fallando a favor en grandes tÉrminos de lo que sostenÍa su defensa, que es que el expresidente sÍ tiene inmunidad legal. >> julio pues sÍ. y como nos adelantaba javier, el abogado joseph malouf, no sÉ si tÚ lo pudiste escuchar en esta transmisiÓn. decÍa de una forma esta decisiÓn si extiende la inmunidad aÚn mÁs y leyendo los Últimos detalles de este documento del juez presidente de la corte, john roberts, dice que un acto no se hace no oficial solo porque viola una ley

reach this compromise over objections from samuel alito on the far right, and newest justice, ketanji brown jackson, who said, we don't want to dismiss this, we should have some clarity, but the truth is, jake, if they had actually decided the merits, the biden administration would probably have lost it outright. >> yeah. and just to just to remind people at home between a perfectly a successful delivery of a child and a trouble pregnancy where the woman dies. there's a lot of stuff that could happen. women can get paralyzed, women could do serious neurological damage. are you seeing all of these doctors in idaho are like we can't do anything to save the health of the mother, only her life that's exactly right. >> you think of for had failure. you think of her reproductive health and that's what justice barrett was concerned about during oral arguments that a woman who again in these cases, sadly, the fetus probably wasn't going to live anyway, but the danger would have been as you as you just said, to the woman who was suffering the complications and perhaps to her future reproductive health and i

new -- [ light laughter ] in a newly-released financial disclosure, supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson she received concert tickets from beyonce worth $3,700, which still only got her top level obstructed view. [ laughter ] it's like this. [ light laughter ] in the same disclosure, supreme court justice brett kavanaugh said that he received a $340,000 advance for the book he is currently writing from the good people at frommer's. [ audience ohs ] [ light laughter ] didn't get the graphic done in time? [ laughter ] i feel like in the end that's a little unfair to the good people at frommer's. that we would imply that that was how [ bleep ] the cover of their book would look. [ light laughter ] sometimes they go, "there's one graphic that's not quite ready," and i'm always like, "i probably won't notice." [ laughter ] did they think i'd notice less if they went full frame? [ laughter ] tiny box, tiny box, tiny box, big! [ laughter ] all white, black letters. like it just came out of the printer. now they're all going to be [ bleep ] because i've been laying into them. they're just going

some of the audio from the oral arguments back in april that says justices elena kagan and ketanji brown, jackson, their questioning, trump's lawyers listening how about if a president orders the military to stage a coup an official on the way you've described that hypothetical, it could well be. >> i just don't know. again, it's a fact specific contexts, acidic determination that answer sounds to me as so it's like yeah, under my test, it's an official act, but that sure sounds bad, doesn't it? the most powerful person in the world with the greatest amount of authority could go into office knowing that there would be no potential penalty for committing crimes. i'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office into the seat of criminal activity in this country these are really deep questions being asked here. if the court does rule, presidents are immune for official acts doesn't this cause a huge question of what can be deemed an official act as you heard them sort of going over there and who gets to decide that? >> yes there's no question about that and the real cri

ketanji brown. jacksononderedd in about presidents killing members of their own cabinet ifn they wanted. musing, quote while the president may have the etf authority to decide to remoe the attorney general, for example, the question here is whether the president has the option to removether the attorney general. listen to this by, say, rem to death.t that's what a supreme court justice wrote.ote an as liberal justices continue to sound more like left-wing activists. how will their rhetoric affect the country's highest court? joininowg me now, judicial cris network president and former clerk to justice clarencmee thomas, carrie severino. >> carrie, where did the majority say you can poison the ag or assassinate someone? >>ison you know, i was reading r pretty quickly, but i think i must have missed that. >> part of the reason qui mu. rityeaetty >> what's really strikingt is even on the charges already brought, which obviouslywh strin have nothing to do with poisoning your cabinet or assassinating people, eve

no, 34,000 black women are information who helped get her elected in 2020, who helped get ketanji brown jackson, seats secured on the supreme court and will help elect the first black president, female black president in the united states. so there are people who read polls and then there are people who read people and in a moment like this, the polls are not going to be able to harness what is actually happening in our communities, in our culture. and it's not going be an easy fight, but it's a fight pick folks are ready good to have. >> i mean, bakari momentum is on her side and the way that she's describing right now but there are those who are still naysayers who are going to look at this and number one, point out that space between he is out and the next hex that he had endorsed her and collective breaths being held the other part of it, people saying, well, hold on a second i mean this is a coronation. this is not a competitive process. what do you say to those people? >> well, it's an open primary that's about over. okay. i mean, in part of that is because of the work that the commonly h

with a latina, with a jewish woman, with the first black woman on the supreme court, justice ketanji brown jacksonhen i say defend, you say diversity. - defend! - diversity! - defend! - diversity! and when we stand up for affirmative action, we're standing up for racial justice. i don't want you to feel a shred of imposter syndrome. i want you to know you deserve to be here. you belong. and sffa is fundamentally wrong. [sally] i try to be hopeful there. right? and maybe it's because i'm young, right? affirmative action has existed for... you know, 40 years, 40 plus years, right? i will live for another, fingers crossed, 40 plus years more, right? there is more time to think about what can be better, what can we do. ho, ho, hey, hey. we say no to sffa. ho, ho... - it should be remembered that only a few universities are selective enough to need to use race in admissions. so you might ask, you know, why do they really matter then, in the grand scheme of things, for economic mobility, for giving people opportunities? i think a huge amount of it is elitism and prestige. but i think once you gain acces

most important to me, bringing back the rule of law, putting ketanji brown jackson on the supreme courtlso about moving forward. and for him, moving forward these next six months, but it's also passing the torch on to the next generation of leaders. i've had my own experience with him. i gave one of my first speeches on the senate floor. and it was about domestic violence. and the only time slot i could get, there was no one there, except maybe the pages. so i give this speech, and i get off the floor, and the phone rings. and i think oh, maybe it's my mom. no, my mom didn't even stay up to watch this. it was joe biden. >> wow. >> he was a senator, and he called and said hey, kid, really good job. and i noticed today when the vice president and who i believe will be the future president addressed the campaign crowd, he said good job, kid. and it just reminded me of that role that he is playing and has played, and that's what you're going to see in these next few months of this campaign. and so many people he has fostered in their careers and their lives. i'm just really excited about th

. >> i want to play one last piece of sound, this ketanji brown jackson talking about immunity. ime for that? we do. let's play justice brown jackson. >> i guess i'm more worried about, you seem to be worried about the president being chilled. i think we would have a really significant opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. if someone with those kinds of powers, the most powerful person in the world, with the greatest amount of authority could go into office, knowing that there would be no potential penalty for committing crimes. i'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office into, you know, the seat of criminal activity in this country. >> gabe, i want to quickly get you on this. it is the -- of these reforms, and i say this not to be pessimistic, but it is the least likely to happen because it is the hardest to do. defending the constitution is very difficult and it is been done and we could tell you how many times over the course of the life of the document but it is not easy. in the absence of a constitutional amendment, that would b