susan glasser and new york times opinion columnist. thank you all for being here, george, i absolutely understand the reaction of looking to god in a moment of having your life threatened. and a bullet whizzing by your head. that is a very normal natural human instinct but this seems to be a different order of magnitude. i wonder what you think about that. >> i would like to think of the religious aspect of it as a separate overlay. i would never criticize someone's religious beliefs for being religious beliefs. what i see here is let's set aside the religious. you have a classic cult and a classic authoritarian or fascist party movement here. and one of the elements of both of those kinds of organizations is there's a absolute cleavage of good versus bad, us versus them. and that's true. that's how you maintain a cult. you are prevented if you are a cult member from going to the outside and being influenced by someone. and also, in politics when you see these authoritarian type, everybody else is the enemy if you are not a member of t

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. >> all right, gentlemen point i want to bring in susan glasser for the new yorker into our conversation. she joins us from milwaukee tonight. susan, president biden called jd vance a clone of trump. where there is a clone of him or not, what voters does jd vance bring in to possibly vote for trump that trump didn't already have? >> i don't think trump looks at and about in that way, steph. donald trump believes that the entire appeal of the republican ticket is based on himself in many ways and i think that is an important thing to remember.i you know, he gets to signal to constituencies in the signal loud and clear is that this is an all maga ticket. i think that is part of the message to the trump faithful. the other part, as john pointed out, is to the extent that the battleground states are still in play, he sees vance as someone who can appeal to those core voters. it is certainly not a message about expanding the electoral base for donald trump. you can say that it is a confident decision that this is from a candidate who thinks he is in pretty good shape right now. it is hard to

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let's bring in staff writer at "the new yorker," susan glasser, who is writing about biden's farewellrris's entrance into the race, her moment, really. she is now, by far, the younger candidate, that is for sure, lined up against trump. donald trump, susan, stepped up his attacks against kamala harris yesterday. we'll show some of that in just a bit, but your thoughts on the piece you've written about this incredible moment in history? >> yeah, i know. what a breathtaking week. you know, the problem is that history moves so quickly, it is hard to remember that it was only a week ago with the republican convention, in the shadow of trump's assassination attempt. you know, i talked to somebody the other day who said, enough with the unprecedented. how about a little bit of precedented now? but, you know, president biden's speech, i think, showed the extent to which donald trump still hangs over our politics, right? in many ways, biden became president in 2020 because he was the democratic candidate who most clearly articulated the threat from donald trump. and now, the reason that his o

susan glasser, staff writer for the new yorker. andrew, what does this mean for jack smith's election interference case against trump? there's lots of reaction but level it for us. >> sure. small picture. the big picture, by the way, is the decision in terms of what it means for the presidency and checks and balances. this could not be a worst decision in terms of our country. in terms of what it means for the case, one, there will not be a trial before the general election. there is no way for that to happen. there's too much that we need to happen in too many appeals. two, there likely will be a hearing that judge chutkan has been called on by the supreme court to have to decide what is official conduct and what is an official conduct. at that hearing, although i think there will be lots of disputes about what evidence can be used, a lot of witnesses can be called so you could have a mini trial. that is sort of a small silver lining that there may be that vehicle for people to see additional evidence that did not, during the janu

"the new yorker"'s susan glasser. and investigative reporter michael schmidt. great group assembled this hour. let's start with president biden's press conference last night on the final day at the nato summit in washington. the president took questions from reporters for nearly an hour. he did have some gaffes at the beginning, but then fiercely defended his accomplishments and made clear again he has no plans to leave the presidential race. >> in 2020, you referred to yourself as being a bridge candidate for a younger, fresher generation of democratic leaders. i wanted to know what changed? >> what changed was the depravity of the situation i inherited. in terms of the economy, our foreign policy, and domestic division. what i realized was, my long time in the senate had equipped me to have the wisdom on how to deal with the congress to get things done. we got more major legislation passed which no one thought would happen, and i want to finish it, to get that finished. >> how the next two weeks go, will that affect your decision, or are you fully determined

he's been kind of quiet, that he's been sending crazy bleeps on his social media feed about susan glasser -- he sends insane things every day if people just read them. i think there's plenty of time not just next week but even after the democratic convention, between the democratic convention and election day to remind people how insane and extreme this man is if there's a campaign and a candidate that are willing and able to do it. >> there's a lot of crazy you can pack into 120 days. tim miller and mark leibovich, thank you for your time tonight, guys. i appreciate it. >>> coming up kanye's ex-girlfriend, a bull dog. new details on a cast of characters slated to speak at the rnc next week and what it tells us about trump's inner circle if he wins a second term. but first what is really happening on capitol hill behind the scenes as president biden and his party try to figure out the future? that's coming up. y to figure ou the future that's coming up >>> as congressional democrats have family discussions over president biden's political future, house democratic leader hakeem jeffries ha

. >> all right, gentlemen, i want to bring susan glasser, staff writer for "the new yorker" into our conversation. she joins us from milwaukee tonight. susan, president biden called j.d. vance a clone of trump. whether it's a clone of him or not, what voters does j.d. vance bring in to possibly vote for trump that trump didn't already have? >> well, i don't think trump looks about it in that way, steph. donald trump believes the entire appeal ofie the republican tick is based on himself in many ways, and i think that's an important thing to remember. he can certainly signal to constituencies, and the signal here loud and clear is that this is an all-maga ticket. i think that is part of the messagepa to the trump faithful. the other part as john pointed out to a the extent battlegroun states are still in play, he sees vancen as someone who can appeal to those core voters. it's certainly not a message about expanding the electoral base from donald trum you can say it's a confident cision that this is from a candidate who thinks he's in pretty good sha right now. it's hard to see suburba

mckay coppins joins us, susan glasser is here and darren haynes who i have not seen in ages and i'm thrilled she's back, editor at large for the 19th and political contributor. since we haven't seen you in so long, you must get the first question and it's about reproductive freedom. it seems to be a strong issue for vice president harris. iowa shows how important and urgent this issue still is. what can we expect? >> it's good to be with you at the 99th they mark. what a time it is. within hours of the iowa abortion ban taking effect, you saw vice president kamala harris on x highlighting the lawn tying it to trump. the supreme court he ushered in in their decision to end federal addiction for abortion. you know harris has been the lead voice on this issue since the 2022 decision, taking the fight directly to trump. she was doing it as vice president and other presumptive democratic nominee for president. it's an issue she has owned inches ewings using the iowa panic to kickoff her presidential bid which is a week of action focused on abortion rights in key states. i will be in atlanta tomor

susan glasser, staff writer for the new yorker. and dave, political reporter for semaphore. you know i'm going to you first. president biden spent the day circling the wagons with one clear message. we are all in and it is full steam ahead. how was it being received tonight? >> reporter: it's interesting. i have been texting and talking with some biden advisers tonight, and for the first time in what has been a rough 10 days since that debate, they feel like it was not a loss. they may have made some progress in recovering the narrative a little bit. this was part of a 72 hour blitz the frankly a lot of democrats wish they'd seen a week earlier. the president had the strong rally the debt there the debate in which he vowed he was staying in and talked about when you get knocked down you get back up. then he retreated from public view for appeared of days before we started seeing the pushback that we had today. what the president is doing and it's interesting, to see this person who has been a picture of democratic politics for decades really challenging his party. almost i d

correspondent, he has covered president biden, his family, and his inner circle for more than a decade susan glasser is here, staff writer for the big ever new yorker and dean of the columbia journalism school. when i knew the speech was coming, you are the first person we wanted to speak to, you know this president, you know his family, his world inside and out, what is your reaction to his speech tonight? how did you feel when he was giving it? >> well, stephanie, advisers to this president were previewing that this would be a deeply personal address and i don't know that i quite expected it to be just what it was. it really was personal. you could sense the emotion coming from this president making, sharing with the country really what was the hardest decision, one of the hardest decisions he has ever had to make in his career. he talked about how much he revered the office but that he loved his country more and that even personal ambition and joe biden is someone who has had great personal ambition throughout his life and fought like heck even to convince his party that he could serve in this of

. >> mini timmaraju, susan glasser , thank you both for joining.n was so short, but it was great. >>> still facing questions. testifying for the assassination attempt on donald trump. what to expect and, alarming new details on the alleged shooter. ed shooter. alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice, and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irresistible scent collection from gain. stuck at the dmv, and i think i'm late on my car insurance. good thing the general gives you a break with flexible payment options. let's get you a break while you wait. what is this place? this is our dmvip. vending machine charcuterie? for a great low rate, go with the general. what will you do when the power goes out? power outages can be unpredictable and inconvenient, but with a generac home standby generator, your life goes on uninterrupted. because when your generac detects a power outage, it automatically powers up, giving your family the security and peace of mind they

susan glasser is here, a staff writer for the new yorker and political reporter, mr. manley, you know i'm going to first, president biden spent the day circling the wagons with one clear message, we are all in, and it is full steam ahead. how is that message being received tonight? >> it's interesting, i've been texting and talking with some biden advisors tonight, and for the first time in what has been a very rough 10 days since the debate, they feel like today was not a loss and they may have finally made some progress in recovering the narrative a little bit. this was part of a 72 hour blitz that frankly a lot of democrats wish they had seen a week earlier. the president had that strong rally the day after the debate, talked about when you get knocked down you get back up but then he retreated for a period of days before we started seeing the pushback that we had today. what the president is doing and it's so interesting. he's been a fixture of democratic politics, really challenged his party. i do you to take this nomination away from me. this is the kind of forc

he had at least a more congenial note and vance is known for saying the same thing that susan glasser did just we are in the end of the roman empire. he's known for his dark, foreboding vision of the future and i wonder, the combination of these two individuals on top of the ticket, does that bring people in? i say this genuinely. >> it may bring some people in but it certainly keeps people in the fold. i talked about, we've been talking about how, there's an in group, and in out group and the cleavage of good and bad but part of the way that fascists movements and cults develop that in and out system, is by telling the people who are in the group, that there are existential threats from outside the group. that brings the people within the group together, and necessarily, doesn't result in unity. >> tressie, you have no -- new writing about maga, the new recruits to this movement. can you talk a little bit about what is attracting them to this apocalyptic vision? >> i think a few things. one, this messianic performance that donald trump does, i think it's important for us to understan

read his, he has been kind of quiet but sending crazy things on his social media about the evil susan glasser, he sends insane things every day if people just read them. there is plenty of time not just next week but after the democratic convention. to remind people how insane and extreme this man is. if there is a campaign and a candidate that are willing and able to do it. >> just a lot of crazy you can pack into 120 days. thank you guys for your time. i appreciate it. >>> coming up, kanye's ex- girlfriend, a bulldog. new details on the cast of characters slated to speak at the rnc next week. and what it tells us about trump's inner circle if he wins a second term. but first, what is really happening on capitol hill behind the scenes as president biden and his party try to figure out the future? that's coming up. that's coming up. what does a robot know about love? it takes a human to translate that leap in our hearts into something we can see and hold. etsy. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. hi honey. ahhh.

been kind of quiet but he has still been sending crazy things on his social media about the evil susan glasser and he sends insane things every day. if there was -- i think there is plenty of time, not just next week but even after the democratic convention between the democratic convention to remind people when the lights are on, how insane and extreme these -- this man is if there is a campaign and candidate able to do it. >> a lot of crazy can back into 120 days. tim miller and mark leibovich, thank you for your time tonight. i appreciate it. coming up, kanye's ex- girlfriend, a bulldog, new details on the cast of characters slated to speak at the rnc next week. what it tells us about trump's inner circle if he winds a second term. what is really happening on capitol hill behind the scenes as president biden and his party try to figure out the future? that is coming up. p. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature

emails that we're getting from the campaign saying joe biden is in this campaign and then i thought susan glasser in the new yorker put it very well, she said this is becoming the democratic a coup like crescendo. what do you know? what do you think? >> well, maybe to quote from patrick henry, these are the times that try democrats' souls. you know, i never thought we'd be in this position, quite frankly. the president is the presumptive nominee, and still is. and i see especially in those front line districts, those members, i served as the chair of the democratic caucus. i know many of these members quite well. and it's not about them. it really isn't about them personally. >> but what are they telling you? >> well, you know, i'm getting from both sides people who think we have to stay the course and the more we do this, the more we damage ourselves with this infighting. and at the same time, i hear from others who really are concerned about not only losing the presidency but losing any opportunity to win back the house of representatives and to hold onto the senate, and that's really important

and susan glasser and would literally take me half of the night to receive the new recite numerous awards she has received. let's just note that a polk award, a guggenheim fellowship, and a two time finalist for the national book award are on that very, very long list. please join me in welcoming judge david tatel jane mayer. this thank you for that lovely introduction. it means so to me and i have been part of the politics and prose community so long that it was on the other side of connecticut avenue when first came here. there are so many. john, thank you for that lovely. the book sounds even better from using it does on paper. there so many people in this room that i could thank, but then we'd never get to book. all my thank you's in the acknowledgments which i loved writing. so i hope you will get far enough in the book to read the acknowledgments. and finally, jane, it's such pleasure to be here with you and to the book with you. i've admired your work and writings for and so i've been asking for 30 years. go away. go for it, jane. okay, now, i finally got you where i want you. the

i'm sure you had peter baker and susan glasser here, who was able work across the aisle, make government work. and we don't have people like that much anymore, which is obviously a shame. so until something i'm not optimistic about our federal government and let's not say i'm not optimistic about the american people because i'm an optimist. i'm a happy person. i'm blessed many ways. but right now i don't feel great about our federal government or our last two presidents. thank you, anybody else. here? we got a man man. which one of these eight guys would have the best chance of getting today? well, because lincoln, my mind stands head and shoulders above of them. if you had to pick a frontrunner in my mind, it would have be lincoln. because he was totally eloquent. he was a very shrewd political. and he was he was principled. he could recognize what the moral issues were compared to what the political issues were and and and in fact, my book presidents an average of three leadership traits for president a total 24 leadership traits in the book. they're all different no and when i got thr

correspondent monica alba, nbc news senior national politics reporter jonathan allen, suzanne susan glasser an wiley. is the white house team, the trump campaign team or the biden campaign team reading this as a loss? >> reporter: well, we are hearing from a senior biden campaign adviser first here, katy, and i think that's partially telling as well. we are talking about the politics here, and the white house for its part has been very careful about weighing in on some of these cases that apply to ongoing legal matters, and they want to be really respectful of that, and they want to be sure to be completely independent of that before weighing in on some of this. so while president biden has talked about the court largely and has really said he believes this current court is out of whack in his words and really out of balance he has suggested, they're waiting before weighing in on that side. but from the biden campaign side of things, no surprise here. they weighed in quickly on this by focusing on january 6th and the acts and events that unfolded that day, and they put this in the context o

i'm sure you had peter baker and susan glasser here, who was able work across the aisle, make government work. and we don't have people like that much anymore, which is obviously a shame. so until something i'm not optimistic about our federal government and let's not say i'm not optimistic about the american people because i'm an optimist. i'm a happy person. i'm blessed many ways. but right now i don't feel great about our federal government or our last two presidents. thank you, anybody else. here? we got a man man. which one of these eight guys would have the best chance of getting today? well, because lincoln, my mind stands head and shoulders above of them. if you had to pick a frontrunner in my mind, it would have be lincoln. because he was totally eloquent. he was a very shrewd political. and he was he was principled. he could recognize what the moral issues were compared to what the political issues were and and and in fact, my book presidents an average of three leadership traits for president a total 24 leadership traits in the book. they're all different no and when i got thr

susan glasser is here, staff writer for the new yorker. and also a staff writer for the new yorker and dean of the columbia journalism school. when i knew this feature was coming, you were the first person we wanted to speak to. you know this president, you know his family, his world, inside and out. what is your reaction to his speech tonight? how did you feel when he was getting it? >> well, stephanie, advisers to this president were previewing that this would be a deeply personal address, and i don't know that i quite expected it to be just what it was. it really was personal. you could sense the emotion coming from this president. making, sharing with the country, really, what was the hardest decision, one of the hardest decisions he has ever had to make in his career. he talked about how much he revered the office, but that he loved his country more. and that even as personal ambition, and joe biden has been somebody who has had great personal ambition throughout his life, has fought like heck even to convince his party that he could

worth remembering the context of the fact that in the new york times, peter baker and new yorkers susan glasserbook they quoted john kelly saying that trump wants asked him why his generals couldn't be more like hitler's, right. and also, when you talk to advisors, they now say very explicitly that he did ask why isn't the justice department prosecuting hillary clinton? why isn't justice department? prosecuting democratic lawmakers, even some republicans who had gone against him. what stood in the way of that was the white house counsel's office or the justice department saying explicitly, we can't do this. we don't have grounds. this isn't how it normally works. are supposed to be kind of a wall here in between the white house and executive branch agencies. and i think that's probably where more, if you saw it in some of the dissents from the more liberal justices in this immunity case is the extreme is not necessarily taken account, taken into account in where the majority ended up. john roberts tries to dismiss. it, says explicitly that your fearmongering with the seal team six examples, thi

with me is sue an glasser, staff writer for the new yorker and coauthor of the divider. trump in the white house, 2017 to 2021. susanyou both for coming to the saturday show. mini, i start with you. vance didn't mention abortion but made this promise the next day at the convention's faith and freedom breakfast. watch. >> there has been rumbling in the last few weeks that the republican party of now and the republican party of the future is not going to be a place that is welcoming social conservatives and really from the bottom of my heart i want to say that is not true. social conservatives have a seat at this table and they always will. so long as i have any influence in this party. and president trump i know agrees. >> what do you make of the absence of the mention of abortion? >> it is still on the platform. they have just tried to scrub as much overt reference. they removed specific bills and specific language but left in really problematic language with the 14th amendment applying to the unborn. embryonic person hood. fetal person hood. that's the root cause of what happened in alabama with the bans on ivf and