paria committee on migration and refugees and former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine volodymyr ogrysko will be our guests. we will talk in particular about europe, about how europe perceives refugees and conscripts from of ukraine, because just this week talks started that poland... can extradite to ukraine conscripted men who are temporarily on the territory of this state, what is the policy in europe regarding ukrainians who are abroad, let's talk with oleksiy honcharenko, i hope that he will put on the shelves the whole story with the possible mobilization of those people who are currently in europe, and of course we will talk about whether... the verkhovna rada of ukraine will vote for the law on demobilization, because ruslan stefanchuk, speaker of the parliament, says that in the current conditions they may not consider this issue, because until the end of the war it is possible not to return to this issue in order not to lose the war with russia. minister of foreign affairs. dmytro koleba of ukraine to china and the results of this visit, as well as the speech of our military le

it will be divided into two parts: in the first part of our program, oleksiy goncharenko and volodymyr ogrysko will be present, in the second part, which will start in exactly an hour, there will be my colleagues, journalists, yanina sokolova and andrii yanitskyi. let's talk about everything that happened during the last week, both in foreign and domestic politics, let's touch on kuleba's visit to... china, let's talk about how the ministry of internal affairs reported on the detention of the alleged murderer of irina farion, in short, the pace is enough for thinking and talking. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video of how the soldiers of the 79th tauriy brigade of the russian armed forces in the kurakhiv direction repelled another powerful enemy attack, this time the russians threw it. three tanks and 13 bmps to storm ukrainian positions, let's see what they did. friends, throughout the broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about whether you think the third world war is inevitable. why are we actually asking about this, because the

volodymyr ogrysko, head of the russian research center and minister of foreign affairs, is in touch with us. of ukraine 2007-2009, good evening, well, i congratulate you, mr. oleksandr, good health, and to you too, how serious is the concern that the support of ukraine from the side of donald trump, if he wins the elections, so that this assistance can significantly decrease? i think these are exaggerated warnings, because you see, european nato countries. understanding certain risks, they insure, they insure, it seems to me, absolutely reasonable and adequate, and if this figure of 40 billion becomes the norm, and other sums will definitely be added to it, then such assistance in general will be enough to not only deter the enemy, but also to inflict devastating losses on him, and i am very glad that president zelenskyi or... stated clearly and clearly that no territorial there can be no concessions to the enemy, and all the pseudo- peace proposals that come from one or the other corner of the world are actually just a variant of russian ipso, and it is very good that they will hear it.

i want to introduce ours. dear guest, this is volodymyr ogrysko, politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of the 7th, 2007-2009, head of the russian research center, mr. volodymyr, i welcome you, thank you for being here today, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation, it is always a pleasure to be in your studio and talk about current topics, if allow me, i will immediately respond to your question, it is possible, i do not want to influence the opinion of our viewers at all, but it seems to me that in fact the war is already underway. moreover, it has been going on for a long time, and we just have to finally understand that it can take different forms, but it, it has been going on for years and years, because russia declared war on the west through putin's mouth back in 2007, conferences, absolutely, that's why it it's just, well, we're used to it, war is when the hot phase has already come together, when they're already shooting, when they're already killing and so on, on the right this war has been going on since 2007, so we are simply witnesses of various forms of this war,

volodymyr ogrysko, we are contacting you by phone, we wanted to see you, the minister of foreign affairsukraine in 2007-2009, the head of the russian research center, but we know that you are not available. light, so only audio, mr. volodymyr, what fools are trying to trick us to lead putin and orban with their proposals for peace, orban says that we just need to stop shooting, well, we've heard that before and we know what it all led to, putin says, let's go back to the istanbul format, well, not exactly like that, but how we use the platform, what is behind it, i congratulate you, mr. vitaly, i congratulate you dear. dear colleagues, thank you very much parfishan for such a high assessment of my modest capabilities, in fact, we really have a lot of people who have experience, who have the desire, but at the same time, we still need the authorities to want to listen to these parades, sometimes it happens, unfortunately, in many cases it does not, well, it is such a thing, i think that it is not necessary to go like this... they wrote something directly and gave it, i think, ultimately i

volodymyr ogrysko, diplomat, ex-minister of foreign affairs of ukraine with us. mr. you. i congratulate you, mr. vasyl, unfortunately i can't see you, i see you in the photo, that's why i say, i'm glad to see you, at least in the photo, well, next time, i hope it will be better. well, we are all in the circumstances we are in. energy and so on, so we understand that we are using the opportunities that are currently available, and i will not be so as to delay you for a very long time, but i would first like to we... you gave me an answer to the question, which is this: volodymyr zelensky made a horse move, as they say, and launched a counterattack, and he did it correctly in principle, but today volodymyr tsybulko expressed this opinion, he offered donald trump as candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, and to publish a plan for a quick end to the war, and how should trump react, and how do you evaluate this call by the president of ukraine? by the way, this is not the first time he has said, well, just tell me. well, finally he says let's plan,

volodymyr ogrysko, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-9, the head of the center was with us of research in russia. it was just important for us to hear about russia's intentions and what their statements mean. mr. golomsha, you raised your hand, please. to the reply, i would like to say that against the background of... the fact that the european union recognizes and talks about the genocide of the ukrainian people, in the united states there is talk again about recognizing russia as a terrorist state, look how much, how cities are being destroyed, how they are fighting on peacefully in peaceful territories, talk about peace, well, it is simply unacceptable, we are talking about surrender, withdrawal from our... territories attention, that at all these negotiations, our government, our establishment must speak to the troops, this is, this is their desire, then of course the fire will cease, but i would like to address in one language: the principles of international law, we cannot talk about what will happen will trump speak, will some other personality speak, by the way,

volodymyr, for the conversation, friends, this was volodymyr ogrysko, diplomat, politician, minister of ukraine in 2007-9. let me remind you that throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey, today we ask you about the following. do you think the third world war is inevitable, so what are the preliminary results of the poll, because it is intermediate, 57% yes, 41%, or 43% no. if the throat is not ok, make a snicker, make it ok, taste choose, take without pain, eucalord, sweet lod, there are discounts represent the only discounts on eden, 20% in pharmacies plantain, you and save, there are discounts represent the only discounts on norvent express forte, 10% in pharmacies plantain, you tausha. vasyl zima's big broadcast, my name is vasyl zima, this is a big broadcast on espressu tv channel. two hours of air time, two hours of your time, i and my colleagues will talk about the most important thing, two hours to learn about the war, about the military, front, component, serhiy zgurets, and what the world lives yuriy fizar is already with me, and it's time to talk about what happened out

after a small plot volodymyr ogrysko, diplomat, politician, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, will come to our studio, and we will talk about what happened. in the world during the last week, and in general not only in ukraine, but also in the united states of america, wait for the short story, and for now, please watch the story about how the third year is looking for her son, angela nepochatova from kropyvnytskyi, her son has gone missing during hostilities in the kharkiv region, creativity helps a woman to hold on, painting gives a resource to live and hope, the story of... a mother who, unfortunately, lost a son, a son who went missing, our journalists will tell. the history of this picture, well, unfortunately, is not as good as it would have been, it was written at the moment when our city was under racist shelling, and i was sitting, working, and here... such explosions. angela nepochatova worked in trade all her life. she picked up a brush only two years ago. this is therapy for me personally. i'm distracting. from the evil of bad thoughts, first of all, you are focus

really artificial, as they say, specialists who the enemy can really hunt for, so here it is, and volodymyr ogryskos, a diplomat, an ex-minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, mr. vodymir, glad to see and hear from you. i congratulate you, mr. vasyl, unfortunately i can't see you, i see you in the photo, that's why i say, i'm glad to see you, at least in the photo, it's clear, it's clear, well, next time, i hope, everything will be better. well, we are all in the circumstances in which we are, energetic and so on, so we understand that we use the opportunities that are currently available. and i will not detain you for a very long time, but i would like first... for us, for you to give me an answer to the following question: volodymyr zelenskyi made a horse move, as they say, and launched a counterattack, and did the right thing in principle, as volodymyr tsybulko expressed this opinion today, he suggested to donald trump, as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, to publish a plan for a quick end to the war, and how should trump react and how would you rate this call by th